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Why isn't there..? (RANT!)

Unread postby RonMN » Fri 17 Jun 2005, 21:25:10

Why isn't there a furnace i can buy, that doubles as a space heater?

Why isn't there a furnace i could add coal or wood to (to cut my costs).

When the power goes out...i have no way to heat my home! I HAVE asked the companies...they cannot explain. There just isn't. aren't...it doesn't exist.

I'm infuriated! Now i need to look into wood/coal seperately from nat' gas when they damn well could be intermingled at a much lower cost! UGH!
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Unread postby SD_Scott » Fri 17 Jun 2005, 21:40:35

sounds like the perfect time to invent one.
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Unread postby FoxV » Fri 17 Jun 2005, 21:41:41

I just went through this in a fashion with my co-worker. He has to pay $1000 to have a new oil tank put in because an inspector saw a bit of rust.

I tried to suggest (warn) him that he might want to look into some kind of pellet stove alternate (I just finished reading the latest stuff about nigeria particularly how they provide a significant amount of heating oil for north america).

Unfortunately he has an old system that is using hot water radiators. Normally a very nice and efficient system. But unfortunately for him its a major investment to convert it to anything else.

So not only is he about to throw away $1000 (tank is actually perfectly fine) but he's locked into getting totaly screwed over this winter (he knows about PO, but is part of the "A solution will be found" camp)
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How about the following...?

Unread postby mohomesteading » Fri 17 Jun 2005, 22:31:21

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Unread postby Zok » Fri 17 Jun 2005, 22:45:59

Look into Woodmaster.

http://www.woodmaster.com/

I know people who bought a wood burning Woodmaster, decided to franchise and sell them, and now make good money with a side business (that is turning into a primary business) because Woodmaster makes such an exceptional product.

These furnaces kick all kinda ass.
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Unread postby aldente » Sat 18 Jun 2005, 00:18:53

These kind of stoves were very common in the old farmhouses in Germany when I grew up there in the end 60's. They were fired with wood and/or coal and heated your kitchen while you were cooking. Now they are museum pieces.

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As a model for our bright future I suggest to bring em back out and to use trash for firing them. For steady burning results the healty mix should further always include a fair amount of car tires.



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Unread postby KevO » Sat 18 Jun 2005, 08:12:15

As the moderators are on strike, maybe it should be a free for all.

Shouldn't this thread be in the 'planning for the future' section?
not that I care really. It just makes finding things more difficult!

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Unread postby RonMN » Sat 18 Jun 2005, 09:06:02

Thanks guys,

All of those links are great but they still wont work in a power outtage (unless you have a generator).

Me thinks the answer is an old fasioned wood burning stove, but they want so damn much money for the chimney work when installing...even for converting an existing fireplace to a WB stove.

I just don't see why they don't build a nat' gas furnace that acts as a space heater when the power goes out...then atleast you'd have "some" heat...just no blower motor.
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Unread postby EdF » Sat 18 Jun 2005, 11:28:46

Here's another company that does wood and multi-fuel boilers.

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Unread postby EdF » Sat 18 Jun 2005, 11:30:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EdF', 'H')ere's another company that does wood and multi-fuel boilers.

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Unread postby Granny-May » Sat 18 Jun 2005, 11:39:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RonMN', 'T')hanks guys,

Me thinks the answer is an old fasioned wood burning stove, but they want so damn much money for the chimney work when installing...even for converting an existing fireplace to a WB stove. .


My husband and I have come to the same conclusion. Our heating bill for the past winter was close to $ 3000 and who knows how high that could go next winter.

The seat-of -the-pants estimate for lining the chimney was $2000 with an additional cost of about $1000 to purchase and install a wood stove. Seems reasonable considering the cost of oil. The wood stove will run without electricity and I hope to be able to brew a pot of tea on top of it.

Pellet stove would be much less expensive because the venting is easier, but requires electricity and purchase of manufactured pellets.

Hubby has done some investigation into a dual fuel boiler, but we don't plan on staying in this house for the long term and it would be a big investment for us.

Good luck with your search.
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Unread postby Granny-May » Sat 18 Jun 2005, 11:57:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', 'T')hese kind of stoves were very common in the old farmhouses in Germany when I grew up there in the end 60's. They were fired with wood and/or coal and heated your kitchen while you were cooking. Now they are museum pieces.

As a model for our bright future I suggest to bring em back out and to use trash for firing them. For steady burning results the healty mix should further always include a fair amount of car tires.


Fifteen years ago My brother had an ancient Glenwood that used natural gas and also the option of burning wood for the oven and a griddle. He never used the fire box because it wasn't connected to a flue so I can't report on reliability of that aspect. The kitchen has since been remodelled and that beauty is sitting in the cellar!

I suppose burning tires would work in a dire situation, but think of the mess it would make in the chimney ':shock:'.
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Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Sat 18 Jun 2005, 13:58:32

I have been looking into making my own methane for heating, cooking and even lighting purposes.

http://www.daenvis.org/technology/Jeanpan.htm

http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_lib ... _pain.html

the last one has a link to a wealth of info about biofuels you may want to take a few minutes and look around.
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