[lorenzo]

Who deserves most credit for winning WWII?
Even though many parties were involved in winning WWII, on several fronts, some may deserve more credit than others.

[stu]

I voted Russia.

If it hadn't been for the Eastern front then I think that Hitler would have thrown more soldiers at the Allies advancing from the West. Come to think of it would D-Day have even been attempted if the Russians had surrendered. The popular theory is that if Hitler had not got bogged down in Stalingrad he would have gone on to take the Baku oilfields and eventually starved the Russian army into submission.

Considering also the millions who died on the Russian front (Not forgetting of course all the others that perished) I would have to say that the Russians played the biggest part in ending the war.

[JLK]

Russia, and its not even close.

[lorenzo]

Seems like we all agree on Russia.

Next poll: if the Anglosaxons had shown as much courage as the Russians, in which year could the Nazis have been defeated? 1942, 1943, 1944?

Put differently: because of the Anglosaxon's lack of courage, the war lasted years longer than it should have lasted. How many years? 1, 2, 3?

From one other angle: because of the lack of courage of the Brits and the Americans, countless people died, needlessly. How many people died in vain because of the cowardice of the Anglosaxons? 3 million, 5 million, 10 million, etc...

[alpha480v]

The top answer should read Russia,which engaged the brunt of the German forces.The Soviets did not "single handedly" defeat Germany.

[alpha480v]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', 'S')eems like we all agree on Russia.

Next poll: if the Anglosaxons had shown as much courage as the Russians, in which year could the Nazis have been defeated? 1942, 1943, 1944?

Put differently: because of the Anglosaxon's lack of courage, the war lasted years longer than it should have lasted. How many years? 1, 2, 3?

From one other angle: because of the lack of courage of the Brits and the Americans, countless people died, needlessly. How many people died in vain because of the cowardice of the Anglosaxons? 3 million, 5 million, 10 million, etc...

[stu]

Cowardice!!!

Are you trolling???

I presume you're referring to the policy of appeasement by Neville Chamberlain before the war began or the fact that the USA didn't get involved until 1941.

To accuse the UK of cowardice during WWII just riles me. If we had surrendered early or been invaded then put simply we would'nt be living in a free world.

[CarnbY]

lorenzo isn't interested in discussion, his only goal is to push his worldview on others. Of course Russia didn't single-handedly defeat the Nazis, he knows that, but as usual, facts and objectivity are of no concern to him...
Besides, we all know the trolls beat the nazis

[gnm]

The US. If the USA had not entered the war Hitler would have had the bomb inside a year. Britain would have fallen, and Germany would not have lost its critical fuel supply line and manufacturing infrastructure which were taken out by US bombers. They would have been able to mount further attacks on Russia and not have had to withdraw. Japan would also have been able to focus on China and then Russia as well if not embroiled with the US.

I will not argue Russia did thier best..

But without the USA they would have been sunk.

-G

I know an 80 year old WWII vet who would discuss this with you but I am afraid that he would probably just strangle you halfway through so we won't go there...

buy a history book bub....

[lorenzo]

People, I did include two other options in the poll that mysteriously disappeared.

The first other option read: "the USA for supplying Russia"
The second: "All those forces combined deserve credit, asking who should get most is not very interesting"

Should I repost the poll?


I'm far from anti-American. I'm anti-Anglosaxon. Which is something totally different.

[stu]

Well perhaps you'd like to give us some more in-depth info on your cowardice theory.

And while you're at it, your hatred of Anglo-saxons.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ho deserves most credit for winning WWII?

[jaakkeli]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alpha480v', 'A')nother stupid, irrelevant anti-American post by Lorenzo.Ho-hum.

[nero]

I'm curious why lorenzo is anti-Anglo-saxon. The poor guys have been out of power for 939 years and still they get blamed for everything.


I'm going to nominate Yugoslavia as most responsible for winning the war. If they hadn't decided to stage an anti-nazi coup the germans would have invaded Russia earlier in the year and most likely have knocked out Russia before winter came.

[Ebyss]

The Allies. If even one of the countries in the "Allied forces" didn't join in, the outcome would have been completely different. Also, lets not forget, while it was "Russia" that helped to seal the fate of WWII, it was due as much to Hitler's arrogance in sending his own troops into a Russian winter without adequate protection as it was to the Russian army. No one country or force won the war.

Why try to split a cooperative effort to see who gave the most? The most important thing surely is that all those countries managed to fight together against a common enemy.

[lorenzo]

Let's not exaggerate the importance of the American supplies to Russia. They constituted a meagre 13% of all the supplies Russia used in liberating Europe.

The T-34 tank is widely recognized to be the best tank in the history of WWII. It was entirely made in Russia, by countless Soviet workers.

No, we have to be honest: Russia "singlehandedly" defeated the Third Reich.

[Jdelagado]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', 'E')ven though many parties were involved in winning WWII, on several fronts, some may deserve more credit than others.

[stu]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', '
')No, we have to be honest: Russia "singlehandedly" defeated the Third Reich.

[El_Producto]

The Soviet Union, not just Russia, deserves the majority of the credit for winning the war in europe. The Ukraine played a big part here also, iirc.

But for the whole of WWII it should be remembered that the US was the main victor in the pacific, and overlooked but very important part of the war.

[stu]

I stand corrected.

It should be the Soviet Union and not Russia.