[vision-master]

TPTB have been working on programing us to 'think negative thoughts' for a few decades now. Just look at this 4um - prime example, no?

[AgentR11]

Need not ascribe to the idea of remote powers doing to us, what we easily do to ourselves.

But yeah, its easy to careen down the passage to darkness when you see the anchor ropes start to fray in the storm.

Then again, if the times demand the setting aside of the pen and drawing of the sword, so be it. Embrace the times we are given, not the fantasy that will never be.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')eed not ascribe to the idea of remote powers doing to us, what we easily do to ourselves.

[Pops]

Apocalyptic cults have always existed, we're just the network version.

[DomusAlbion]

VM, most of us are plagued by negative thoughts; most some of the time, a few most of the time. But to think that those thoughts are somehow beamed into us or imposed on us by some outside force borders on the paranoid and I would seek outside help if I were thinking along these lines.

Life is hard enough and it's going to get harder, don't let self-defeating thoughts rule you or ruin you. Do something good for yourself or even better for someone else.

All the best.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'V')M, most of us are plagued by negative thoughts; most some of the time, a few most of the time. But to think that those thoughts are somehow beamed into us or imposed on us by some outside force borders on the paranoid and I would seek outside help if I were thinking along these lines.

[Novus]

Most Americans don't even know what Marxism is let alone having come under Marxist influence.

What is demoralized people is the break down of the family unit. This happened in two phases. The first phase was the dismantling of the 3 generation household where the kids, parents, and grandparents used to all lived under one roof. The second phase was the break down of the nuclear family. This often times falsely attributed to failing moral values but it has nothing to do with moral values. Humans are social creatures that are genetically hard wired to seek acceptance within a family type unit. Without that acceptance and close social bonds the mind breaks down into apathy, cynicism, and depression. TPTB whether they are Communists or Capitalists prefer it this way because broken and depressed people are easy to control.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'T')PTB have been working on programing us to 'think negative thoughts' for a few decades now. Just look at this 4um - prime example, no?

[AgentR11]

Novus, funny I was thinking about that very thing this evening... How many extended families of the 20s are arranged as elder parents retired or near retired out to a luxurized version of a rural household or large midtown estate/homes, with one or two kids leading successful professional lives with professional spouses, who have one or two kids between them. How many of the 80 are structured with elder parents dependent upon SS, their children in broken homes and irregular or hourly positions, with kids they barely can sustain even with public schooling.

Every time I bump into these patterns I'm amazed at the consistency; its practically design intent that the 20s extended family would collapse back and out, welding the productivity of multiple professional adults to the accumulated assets of baby-boom and pre-baby boom elderly adults and empowering and propelling the youngest generation to an initial position vastly superior to their peers. Where as the 80s, crushed by unavoidable expenses and inability for most to make the side-step to power down low-cost low-yield sustainability, are driven relentlessly into the city core, where scaling factors enable them to retain a semblance of a modern lifestyle with community amenities that really aren't all that horrible. The harsh reality is that the 80s are being herded, broken, divorced, permanently indebted into soft submission, an unyielding state lacking any real freedom, but fairly safe from actual starvation or death by exposure... How can such parents then manage to propel their children through professional degrees to regain parity?

How can I not entertain dark thoughts, when everywhere this pattern shows, with its ruthlessness only exceeded by its perfection in design.

Its the birth of an aristocracy that is sustainable for generations through subtle selection against incompetence and sloth.

Its the birth of a permanent peasantry, with virtually no possibility of generational escape except for the spectacularly talented.

And VM, you ask what fantasy? That human society could ever sustainably exist as a benevolent, egalitarian expression of fairness.

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'T')ry zen meditation. No thoughts at all. Just peace, being awake, aware, and present -- without thinking about it.

[Anvil]

Its funny how negative thoughts and speaking are portrayed as cold hearted logical clear head thinking necessary for planning for the future with out as many people or cheap energy for a while at least are negative thoughts according to the mainstream media.

From what i have seen in ms is promoting positive thoughts are completely ignoring reality, bitching and complaining by consumer is also given alot of coverage. Then the ms devote a whole hour time slot in between ads as to why everyone should go on ignoring reality and expect the government to fix everything.

MS always gives fiction over fact. This is why everything on MS and promoted by MS is a lie in a way. Take global warming ms promotion means the concept is automatically false in every way possible. People who actually believe anything MS say are biggest jokes ever i am surprised that some of them dont bust out laughing every time they walk past a mirror or when they are bullshitting to there friends.

[Novus]

Humans biologically have not changed since cave man times. What makes a caveman happy would also make us happy. Safety, Shelter, Food, and Family acceptance. To be exiled from your family unit or tribe would have been a death sentence. The basic rule of the cave man as it existed for millions of year is if you are not accepted then you are nothing. So every fiber of our inner being fears and loathes the state of exile that modern society has foisted upon us. The caveman self can only be made to feel whole again through the social acceptance of the extended family unit.

Advertisers know exactly how to pray upon deep seeded fears and longing if you look at the deeper messages behind the commercials. Drink Coke and you will get that wonderful feeling you can't put a price on. Master Card commercials have made a name for themselves with the "Priceless" punch line. But it is all a big lie in plain sight that drinking coke and using master card will not fill the longing that is buried deep within our caveman selves.

TPTB tell us we are not trying hard enough if we are not happy. You need a high paying job, nice car, large home full of toys, big screen TVs, and a trophy wife and if that doesn't work you need to take drugs and antidepressants. Something is wrong with our society if even successful people need to take antidepressant drugs to function. It is because our society's perception of what happiness is based on lie. It does not matter how hard you try you cannot fill the deep caveman longing for family acceptance with material things.

Even if you look at the richest of the rich billionaires many of them are not satisfied with what they have accomplished. The billionaire with one billion wants two billion and billionaire with ten billion wants twenty billion. But they are not happy at all because underneath all their riches they are still just a miserable cave man in an Armani suit that has never found social acceptance as a person.

There are some good books on this topic by Daniel Quinn if you want to really explore the psychological underpinning of our society.

[vision-master]

+1 Novus

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'V')M, most of us are plagued by negative thoughts; most some of the time, a few most of the time. But to think that those thoughts are somehow beamed into us or imposed on us by some outside force borders on the paranoid and I would seek outside help if I were thinking along these lines.

[vision-master]

Sounds like the USA today?

[AgentR11]

Nah, PS is just obsessed with Naziss!!!!
lol

[Pops]

Preston, where did you come up with that, do I have to read Kampf?

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'N')ah, PS is just obsessed with Naziss!!!!
lol

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'S')ounds like the USA today?

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'P')reston, where did you come up with that, do I have to read Kampf?