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Peak Oil and the Soul of Exurbia: The Mega Church

Unread postby pea-jay » Mon 28 Mar 2005, 04:50:27

The New York Times had a great article on the MegaChurch, the catch-all form of worship springing up in your average boomburg near you. I couldn't help but shake my head in disbelief on some of the stuff in the article, which is 11 pages long, by the way.

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n fact, everything about Radiant has been designed to lure people away from other potential weekend destinations. The foyer includes five 50-inch plasma-screen televisions, a bookstore and a cafe with a Starbucks-trained staff making espresso drinks. (For those who are in a rush, there's a drive-through latte stand outside the main building.) Krispy Kreme doughnuts are served at every service. (Radiant's annual Krispy Kreme budget is $16,000). For kids there are Xboxes (10 for fifth and sixth graders alone). ''That's what they're into,'' McFarland says. ''You can either fight it or say they're a tool for God.'' The dress code is lax: most worshipers wear jeans, sweats or shorts, depending on the season. (''At my old church, we thought we were casual because we wore mock turtlenecks under our blazers,'' Radiant's youth pastor told me.) Even the baptism pool is seductive: Radiant keeps the water at 101 degrees. ''We've had people say, 'No, leave me under,' '' McFarland says. ''It's like taking a dip in a spa.''

When the church was under construction, people would occasionally ask McFarland if it was going to have stained glass or a steeple. ''No!'' he'd answer. ''We want the church to look like a mall. We want you to come in here and say, 'Dude, where's the cinema?' ''

The spiritual sell is also a soft one. There are no crosses, no images of Jesus or any other form of religious iconography. Bibles are optional (all biblical quotations are flashed on huge video screens above the stage). Almost half of each service is given over to live Christian rock with simple, repetitive lyrics in which Jesus is treated like a high-school crush: ''Jesus, you are my best friend, and you will always be. Nothing will ever change that.'' Committing your life to Christ is as easy as checking a box on the communication cards that can be found on the back of every chair. (Last year, 1,055 people did so.)


Lovely, we welcome you to the unholy union of mindless consumerism and mindless feel-good religion. Please leave your thinking caps in your Excursions or Escalades.

MORE...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')urprise was still little more than a spot on the road, but waves of construction were rippling out from Phoenix. Having started the second half of the 20th century as the nation's 99th largest city, Phoenix had become the sixth largest and was busting out of its own skin. Once most of the land in the nearer suburbs -- Glendale, Mesa, Peoria -- had been built out, developers started moving deeper and deeper into the exurbs, and Surprise was soon expanding in every direction. The process worked something like this: A developer would buy land from a farmer and then ask Surprise to annex it. This guaranteed the developer municipal amenities like police and fire protection; for its part, with each annexation Surprise became more populous.

The seemingly endless supply of desert land kept housing costs low, and young families were soon pouring in. During the 1990's, the population of Surprise doubled to 30,000. Commercial development was still ramping up. In 2000, Applebee's was the only sit-down chain restaurant in town, and the wait for a table on a weekend night could be as long as an hour and a half.

Then the real boom began. The population of Surprise is now more than 80,000 and is expected to be close to 100,000 by the end of the year. And the city anticipates that there are still more than three decades of furious growth to come. Surprise won't be fully built out until 2040, at which point its population is expected to reach 650,000


650,000 people?? In the desert?? No amount of praying at Radiant will turn sand into water. Or whatever. Nothing that this article described will be worth a damn without cheap energy. Are these worshippers going to be raptured out of their petty suburban life before TSHTF?? Doesn't anyone have a clue?

Arrg! Is this what we have come to as a country?

If you have the time or the presence of mind, here is the article in its entirety.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/27/magaz ... HURCH.html?
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Re: Peak Oil and the Soul of Exurbia: The Mega Church

Unread postby JohnDenver » Mon 28 Mar 2005, 05:04:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pea-jay', ' ')Please leave your thinking caps in your Excursions or Escalades.


Mocking people about their cars... I'm shocked pea-jay. Shocked. The least you could have done is include a photo. :)
What kind of car do you drive pea-jay?
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Re: Peak Oil and the Soul of Exurbia: The Mega Church

Unread postby Chicken_Little » Mon 28 Mar 2005, 09:52:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JohnDenver', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pea-jay', ' ')Please leave your thinking caps in your Excursions or Escalades.


Mocking people about their cars... I'm shocked pea-jay. Shocked. The least you could have done is include a photo. :)
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You seem like you think everything is just dandy in America right now, John Denver.

So why are you here instead of watching Nascar or something?

Maybe you secretly realise from things like the NY Times article linked to here that America's bought a ticket on the roller-coaster to Hell?

You think 650,000 people in the middle of the desert makes any kind of sense?

As a European i have one consolation.

This land around me has supported our civilisation for thousands of years and the people have survived the fall of the Roman Empire, the Black Death, and seemingly unending war, to mention a few examples.

Can the residents of 'Surprise, Arizona' say the same?
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Unread postby threadbear » Mon 28 Mar 2005, 12:00:37

What dumb f****. The interior of BC, Canada is full of them too. People want life simplified down to it's component parts--and then they don't even get that right.

Radiant--Now we know what Hell looks like. The road to it isn't even paved with good intentions, just corporate bottom line thinking.

People who are this willfully stupid get everything they deserve in the future. I just feel really sorry for their children. They don't deserve it.
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Unread postby pea-jay » Mon 28 Mar 2005, 13:22:00

Here's a peak at that church, courtesy of their web site.
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http://www.radiantchurch.com

it's...interesting.
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Re: Peak Oil and the Soul of Exurbia: The Mega Church

Unread postby DomusAlbion » Mon 28 Mar 2005, 13:59:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chicken_Little', 'Y')ou think 650,000 people in the middle of the desert makes any kind of sense?


Phoenix, AZ makes no sense. Neither does Southern California. Those places can only be maintained by huge expeditures of energy. There's real trouble ahead for these people.
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Re: Peak Oil and the Soul of Exurbia: The Mega Church

Unread postby Chicken_Little » Mon 28 Mar 2005, 22:08:15

So let's hear your prognosis, John Denver, for the good citizens of Surprise, Arizona, all 650,000 of them.

Nothing to say?

Are you sure?

i didn't think so.

Now go get your f**king shinebox.
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Unread postby mgibbons19 » Mon 28 Mar 2005, 23:27:06

Places like that surely can't last.

About the church, it says a lot about the paucity of community in those areas. Notice the article says most of their ministry is done through side doors. Bringing ppl in based on the many services they provide, and hoping they stay. Daycare, workout classes, recovery, marriage counseling, sunday morning donuts and coffee. All these are things that more traditional communities provide through their kinship and community networks. But since edge cities are made up of ppl who are from somewhere else, on their way to somewhere else, with no real friends in town, those networks literally do not exist.

Isn't it funny too just how deeply antithetical this "spirituality" is to Weber's Protestent Ethic? Roughly the same ppl sect-wise, but vastly different in approach.
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Unread postby threadbear » Mon 28 Mar 2005, 23:39:57

Great post, Gibbons. You nailed the source of the problem. It's not just collective insanity, there's a lot more going on here.
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Unread postby pea-jay » Mon 28 Mar 2005, 23:56:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ocking people about their cars... I'm shocked pea-jay. Shocked. The least you could have done is include a photo.
What kind of car do you drive pea-jay?


For your information, we own a VW Jetta TurboDiesel. Not a hybrid, but decent milage. We live in and work near our home and steer clear of the MegaChurch culture.

Megachurches embody this nation's supersized, convenience oriented attitude on life. Religion, like everything else has been chopped up, pre-packaged and dressed up for mass consumption in large quanties. I sincerely doubt these individuals will or even can subscribe to a philosophy of limits, restraint and concern for the survival of others or the environment. (Petty donations to feed the poor isnt what I am talking about when I mean concern for others.) No, I believe this church--like alot of other mass marketed ministries--is all about feeling better about one's self and life choices.

Too bad that doesn't include concern on the impacts that the average parishoner's choices have on the rest of the planet.
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Unread postby mgibbons19 » Tue 29 Mar 2005, 00:28:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'G')reat post, Gibbons. You nailed the source of the problem. It's not just collective insanity, there's a lot more going on here.


Thanks. Appreciate it.
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