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My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 13 May 2009, 09:35:00

My Neighbor from Jordan gave me some survival tips yesterday when Mad Max comes to town. He lived in Jordan (in the city) during the civil unrest in the 70's.

1st off, he said water and power was cut off. He said you wanted to hang outside during the day next to your house with a (he had) fully auto AK-47 in your lap. When ppl would walk by in the street you be real friendly to them, but as soon as they start walking towards your house, you explain, no that is far enough. You let everyone know you are well armed. Also,He told me 'you don't want to be on your own out in the middle of nowwhere, as you will die'.

Also, you don't want to be hiding in your house, you want to be very visible during the day and very well armed. He said his AK-47 had 3 30 round clips taped togather. His dad had a fully auto M-16. At night, you want to sleep in the Kitchen, not in your bedrooms. The shotgun is your last line of defense.

They had to get water from tankers as they showed up. There is no police, everyone is on their own. His main point was, be very well armed and visible during the day. Everyone had a lot of food stocked and shared with each other. Your neighborhood must band togather.

Kool, I'll be talking again soon with this guy.
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Unread postby rangerone314 » Wed 13 May 2009, 09:37:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'M')y Neighbor from Jordan gave me some survival tips yesterday when Mad Max comes to town. He lived in Jordan (in the city) during the civil unrest in the 70's.

1st off, he said water and power was cut off. He said you wanted to hang outside during the day next to your house with a (he had) fully auto AK-47 in your lap. When ppl would walk by in the street you be real friendly to them, but as soon as they start walking towards your house, you explain, no that is far enough. You let everyone know you are well armed. Also,He told me 'you don't want to be on your own out in the middle of nowwhere, as you will die'.

Also, you don't want to be hiding in your house, you want to be very visible during the day and very well armed. He said his AK-47 had 3 30 round clips taped togather. His dad had a fully auto M-16. At night, you want to sleep in the Kitchen, not in your bedrooms.

They had to get water from tankers as they showed up. There is no police, everyone is on their own. His main point was, be very well armed and visible during the day. Everyone had a lot of food stocked and shared with each other. Your neighborhood must band togather.

Kool, I'll be talking again soon with this guy.


Finally, actual advice from someone who has actually been through a version of SHTF, as opposed to theoretical armchair-generaling.
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 13 May 2009, 09:38:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'M')y Neighbor from Jordan gave me some survival tips yesterday when Mad Max comes to town. He lived in Jordan (in the city) during the civil unrest in the 70's.

1st off, he said water and power was cut off. He said you wanted to hang outside during the day next to your house with a (he had) fully auto AK-47 in your lap. When ppl would walk by in the street you be real friendly to them, but as soon as they start walking towards your house, you explain, no that is far enough. You let everyone know you are well armed. Also,He told me 'you don't want to be on your own out in the middle of nowwhere, as you will die'.

Also, you don't want to be hiding in your house, you want to be very visible during the day and very well armed. He said his AK-47 had 3 30 round clips taped togather. His dad had a fully auto M-16. At night, you want to sleep in the Kitchen, not in your bedrooms.

They had to get water from tankers as they showed up. There is no police, everyone is on their own. His main point was, be very well armed and visible during the day. Everyone had a lot of food stocked and shared with each other. Your neighborhood must band togather.

Kool, I'll be talking again soon with this guy.


Finally, actual advice from someone who has actually been through a version of SHTF, as opposed to theoretical armchair-generaling.


ain't that kool! :oops:
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby Jotapay » Wed 13 May 2009, 09:46:50

Sounds like a good neighbor to have.

I am friends with many of my neighbors. Some are Doomers and all of them think we are going to hell in a handbasket. I have informal plans with some of them that if TSHTF, we would go door to door and organize the neighborhood, and then to lock it down and establish security. Some of them are actually city police and are trained for this very thing. They keep me abreast of any new mandatory training they receive in the department and some of it seems a little odd, as it directly relates to a wide range of SHTF scenarios which you don't want to think would actually happen.
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 13 May 2009, 09:50:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'S')ounds like a good neighbor to have.

I am friends with many of my neighbors. Some are Doomers and all of them think we are going to hell in a handbasket. I have informal plans with some of them that if TSHTF, we would go door to door and organize the neighborhood, and then to lock it down and establish security. Some of them are actually city police and are trained for this very thing. They keep me abreast of any new mandatory training they receive in the department and some of it seems a little odd, as it directly relates to a wide range of SHTF scenarios which you don't want to think would actually happen.


You're covered. :)

I'm thinking of ordering one of those banana clips for my SKS. :P
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby Fishman » Wed 13 May 2009, 12:26:22

Talk softly and carry a big stick. Works for countries too.
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby TWilliam » Wed 13 May 2009, 13:59:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'M')y Neighbor from Jordan gave me some survival tips yesterday when Mad Max comes to town. He lived in Jordan (in the city) during the civil unrest in the 70's.

1st off, he said water and power was cut off. He said you wanted to hang outside during the day next to your house with a (he had) fully auto AK-47 in your lap. When ppl would walk by in the street you be real friendly to them, but as soon as they start walking towards your house, you explain, no that is far enough. You let everyone know you are well armed. Also,He told me 'you don't want to be on your own out in the middle of nowwhere, as you will die'.

Also, you don't want to be hiding in your house, you want to be very visible during the day and very well armed. He said his AK-47 had 3 30 round clips taped togather. His dad had a fully auto M-16. At night, you want to sleep in the Kitchen, not in your bedrooms. The shotgun is your last line of defense.

They had to get water from tankers as they showed up. There is no police, everyone is on their own. His main point was, be very well armed and visible during the day. Everyone had a lot of food stocked and shared with each other. Your neighborhood must band togather.

Kool, I'll be talking again soon with this guy.

Only one problem I see with this basic strategy: snipers. An FAL or M1 will nail your @ss at 500 yds with standard NATO 7.62 ( more with custom loads; and the report is barely audible). The AK's effective range is about 15% less.

If there are no surrounding high points then of course that might not be much of an issue. Apart from that it's pretty good general advice...
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 13 May 2009, 14:39:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'M')y Neighbor from Jordan gave me some survival tips yesterday when Mad Max comes to town. He lived in Jordan (in the city) during the civil unrest in the 70's.

1st off, he said water and power was cut off. He said you wanted to hang outside during the day next to your house with a (he had) fully auto AK-47 in your lap. When ppl would walk by in the street you be real friendly to them, but as soon as they start walking towards your house, you explain, no that is far enough. You let everyone know you are well armed. Also,He told me 'you don't want to be on your own out in the middle of nowwhere, as you will die'.

Also, you don't want to be hiding in your house, you want to be very visible during the day and very well armed. He said his AK-47 had 3 30 round clips taped togather. His dad had a fully auto M-16. At night, you want to sleep in the Kitchen, not in your bedrooms. The shotgun is your last line of defense.

They had to get water from tankers as they showed up. There is no police, everyone is on their own. His main point was, be very well armed and visible during the day. Everyone had a lot of food stocked and shared with each other. Your neighborhood must band togather.

Kool, I'll be talking again soon with this guy.

Only one problem I see with this basic strategy: snipers. An FAL or M1 will nail your @ss at 500 yds with standard NATO 7.62 ( more with custom loads; and the report is barely audible). The AK's effective range is about 15% less.

If there are no surrounding high points then of course that might not be much of an issue. Apart from that it's pretty good general advice...


Well, he survived and re-located to the USA - good Catholic ya know.
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby AAA » Wed 13 May 2009, 15:39:20

Great read. Keep us updated on future conversations. He is man of much wisdom.
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Wed 13 May 2009, 16:57:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')You're covered. :)

I'm thinking of ordering one of those banana clips for my SKS. :P


You're better off with a bunch of stripper clips and a good bandolier or vest, although lots of folks say the tapco 20 rd mag is the best bet.

Keep in mind, most of the Jordanians probably fired full auto with their eyes closed, so the mags may have been mainly for show.
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby AAA » Wed 13 May 2009, 17:42:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', ' ')He said you wanted to hang outside during the day next to your house with a (he had) fully auto AK-47 in your lap. When ppl would walk by in the street you be real friendly to them, but as soon as they start walking towards your house, you explain, no that is far enough. You let everyone know you are well armed.


Online the LA Times recently had a photo memoir about the LA Riots.

Several of the photos showed black store owners sitting outside their shops holding multiple firearms. The shops themselves were spray painted with the slogan "Black Owned" so that the rioters would skip the shops and target the white, latino, and asian owned stores.

I wish I could find one pic that showed it exactly. But it is exactly as your neighbor described it.

Here is another pic taken during the LA riots of storeowners and a funny caption.
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Wed 13 May 2009, 17:53:55

What was the sign on the Gulf after Katrina? It said something like "Looters Beware - I Have 2 Shotguns And My Wife Is Ugly"
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby Jotapay » Wed 13 May 2009, 18:13:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'W')hat was the sign on the Gulf after Katrina? It said something like "Looters Beware - I Have 2 Shotguns And My Wife Is Ugly"


There was this one from Houston during hurricane Rita. Looks like someone needs to bust out the lawn mower.

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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 13 May 2009, 20:06:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')You're covered. :)

I'm thinking of ordering one of those banana clips for my SKS. :P


You're better off with a bunch of stripper clips and a good bandolier or vest, although lots of folks say the tapco 20 rd mag is the best bet.

Keep in mind, most of the Jordanians probably fired full auto with their eyes closed, so the mags may have been mainly for show.


Yeah, the tapco 20 rd mag. I checked out the reviews. :)

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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby TWilliam » Thu 14 May 2009, 01:48:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')img]http://i42.tinypic.com/s4c9rm.jpg[/img]

Now THAT is funny... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby Blueberry » Thu 14 May 2009, 01:54:05

You know, this might work in certain areas of the country (and I've read about a guy sitting on his front porch with a shotgun in his lap that didn't get looted during a hurricane) -- but what if TPTB are rounding up guns like they did in Katrina?
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby dsula » Thu 14 May 2009, 08:42:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')Also, you don't want to be hiding in your house, you want to be very visible during the day and very well armed. He said his AK-47 had 3 30 round clips taped togather. His dad had a fully auto M-16. At night, you want to sleep in the Kitchen, not in your bedrooms. The shotgun is your last line of defense.

Why not hide? I would assume if you show yourself you give it all away. If you hide, nobody knows how dangerous you are.
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 14 May 2009, 09:01:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')Also, you don't want to be hiding in your house, you want to be very visible during the day and very well armed. He said his AK-47 had 3 30 round clips taped togather. His dad had a fully auto M-16. At night, you want to sleep in the Kitchen, not in your bedrooms. The shotgun is your last line of defense.

Why not hide? I would assume if you show yourself you give it all away. If you hide, nobody knows how dangerous you are.


He said you want to see your potential attacker eye-to-eye. Also, he said once they enter your house, your p'boly gonna be dead. I think those single woman (without a gun) could be at greatest risk. Would you attack someones house who has two fully automatic weapons (AK-47 and M-16), not the kind we have over here. :wink: I mean the word would get out real quick about the armament they have and their willingless to use it. Attackers generally are cowards.
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 14 May 2009, 09:06:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Blueberry', 'Y')ou know, this might work in certain areas of the country (and I've read about a guy sitting on his front porch with a shotgun in his lap that didn't get looted during a hurricane) -- but what if TPTB are rounding up guns like they did in Katrina?


Then we are all screwed. :cry:
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Re: My Neighbor gave me some survival tips yesterday for Mad Max

Unread postby PonyBoy78 » Fri 15 May 2009, 04:25:29

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I've always wondered.. let's say that the looters are moving from one locale to another once THSTF. What happens if they find these signs everywhere they go? 8O
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