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Colin Powell's "Crisis coming we don't even know about

Unread postby Jester » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 14:41:55

Colin's interview the other day, where around the 2:38 mark he makes a somewhat weird statement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ImjcoCmC-M

"The problems will always be there, and there's going to be a crisis come along in the 21st or 22nd of January that we don't even know about right now."

That's right after the new president would come in, does he mean that the change of power may weaken world confidence in the USA (I mean moreso than already of course)? Or is it something else?

When I watched it, I was just thinking. huh, WTF? you have a date picked for a crisis but we don't know about it right now? uhmmm...
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Re: Colin Powell's "Crisis coming we don't even know ab

Unread postby Bas » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 14:53:49

ok, that's odd... it's at about 2:40 into the interview.
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Unread postby dinopello » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 15:05:12

It was an awkwardly worded reponse to the question which referenced Jan 21. That is the day after Inaguration day. He's saying once you get in office, the first problem you face would be something you didn;t anticipate.
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Re: Colin Powell's "Crisis coming we don't even know ab

Unread postby Bas » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 15:10:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'I')t was an awkwardly worded reponse to the question which referenced Jan 21. That is the day after Inaguration day. He's saying once you get in office, the first problem you face would be something you didn;t anticipate.


I was trying to make sense of it along similar lines, but is that what he says? I guess so then.
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Unread postby Jester » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 15:17:48

Pretty poorly worded if that is the case. He didn't say there can be problems or unexpected events, he said a crisis is coming.

Regardless though, how does a journalist NOT ask what he means when he says that in an interview?
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Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 15:29:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jester', 'h')ow does a journalist NOT ask what he means when he says that in an interview?

Because Powell isn't predicting a specific crisis, but is just saying that Obama will inevitably face crises we don't even know about yet once he takes office.
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Re: Colin Powell's "Crisis coming we don't even know ab

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 15:36:47

i think he means that Obama is going to enter the White House on Jan. 20-something and find a mess that's a lot worse than keyboards missing "W" keys.

how honest Obama will then choose to be with us, TBD.

i think most of the people that have dug into Peak Oil, etc., know the major details of the "crisis" Powell is alluding to.

i wouldn't be surprised if it's something simple like, Ghawar is way past peak, Saudi Arabia is past peak, there is truth to the not-well-referenced speculation that Iraqi oil is being diverted to SA - something along those lines.

On Jan. 2*, we will be making the transition from the "Deficits don't matter, the American way of life is not negotiable" stubborn delusion of Cheney, to something a lot more reality based.

Possibly a disclosure of the extent of the FUBAR-ness created during the Bush-Cheney admin, that's what Powell is referring to.

if Obama wins, i wouldn't be surprised to see Powell back in the White House in some capacity.
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Unread postby dinopello » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 15:50:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pedalling_faster', 'i')f Obama wins, i wouldn't be surprised to see Powell back in the White House in some capacity.

I think that is pretty certain. Him and a lot of other professionals.

A lot of Liberty University and Regent University grads who make up a large part of the appointees in the Bush administration (particularly at DOJ) will be looking for work.
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Re: Colin Powell's "Crisis coming we don't even know ab

Unread postby Jester » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 16:13:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jester', 'h')ow does a journalist NOT ask what he means when he says that in an interview?
Because Powell isn't predicting a specific crisis, but is just saying that Obama will inevitably face crises we don't even know about yet once he takes office.

It doesn't matter what Powell is predicting, how would you not ask for some elaboration? Whether, saying "Are there specific problems you foresee?" or "Can you expand on that? Do you anticipate problems once the new president is in?"

but to completely ignore a statement like that makes no sense at all.
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Unread postby heroineworshipper » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 16:21:18

It means Uba Buba is going to hand a crisis to Colon on the first day he gets his mojo.
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Unread postby idiom » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 16:25:25

Well its a long time since we have been suprised by anything around here.
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Re: Colin Powell's "Crisis coming we don't even know ab

Unread postby Bas » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 16:29:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jester', 'I')t doesn't matter what Powell is predicting, how would you not ask for some elaboration? Whether, saying "Are there specific problems you foresee?" or "Can you expand on that? Do you anticipate problems once the new president is in?" but to completely ignore a statement like that makes no sense at all.

maybe the interviewer thought he didn't hear it right, he didn't have the luxury of playing it back a few times to see if he really heard what he did, so he made of it what Dinopello made of it.
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Unread postby Fishman » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 16:33:17

something a lot more reality based.
Like, there's no way I'll be able to give you any of those things I promised to get this office because there's no money and the crisis is you believed it.
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Re: Colin Powell's "Crisis coming we don't even know ab

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 16:43:46

Hey, Jester....I think you are right about this....it appears you are on to something here.

Joe Biden just said the same thing...Obama will face a big international crisis soon after taking office.

Biden and Powell are the biggest guns the BO campaign has to get its message out... the BO campaign has them both putting out this same message at the same time for a reason.

biden says: "gird your loins" for big crises coming

Sounds like BO and Biden and Powell are planning to do something big soon after taking office....Obama has at various times said he'd send US troops into Sudan and into Pakistan...could one of those invasions be what Powell and Biden are warning us about?
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Re: Colin Powell's "Crisis coming we don't even know ab

Unread postby TheDude » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 16:44:55

Maybe he means we should pull the building? :wink:

Really guys, it's just a generalized statement about the pressures the new POTUS will face.
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Re: Colin Powell's "Crisis coming we don't even know ab

Unread postby skeptik » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 16:45:06

Very odd. Joe Biden is singing the same song link
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"... Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."
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"After speaking for just over a quarter of an hour, Biden noticed the media presence in the back of the small ballroom.

"I probably shouldn't have said all this because it dawned on me that the press is here," he joked."<snip>
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Re: Colin Powell's "Crisis coming we don't even know ab

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 16:45:49

8) Why wouldn't a journalist follow up the question?
He was on 'Meet the press' and there was no journalist present.

I think he was saying that the unexpected happens more often then not. Like every NFL coach has a game plan for every game and the vast majority of them are junk by the third play of the game.

Another nail in the Mccain campange coffin. It has enough now that it won't float in New Orleans.
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Re: Colin Powell's "Crisis coming we don't even know ab

Unread postby Bas » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 16:48:29

I let a friend hear this just now, and he suggested that Powell meant to say the 21st century, which seemed like a reasonable explanation to me...
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Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 16:52:28

I didn't think much of it when Powell said it, but to have both Powell and Biden say the same thing on the same day suggests the BO campaign directed them to get the message out.

If both Biden and Powell say that we should expect a crisis soon after Sen. Obama takes office, we might be well advised to pay attention.
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Re: Colin Powell's "Crisis coming we don't even know ab

Unread postby dinopello » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 16:58:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'B')iden and Powell are the biggest guns the BO campaign has to get its message out... the BO campaign has them both putting out this same message at the same time for a reason.

I laugh because now, to you, Biden is a "big gun".

But, it is an interesting thing to say. Most new presidents get some test by one of the bad boys to see how they will react. Remember China forcing down one of our EP-3s near Hainan Island just as Bush was settling into his big chair in the spring of 2001.

In this case, Biden may have been preparing Obama's supporters to hang with Obama even if he has to do something 'presidential' - meaning the use of force. It may be a general statement or it may be based on some briefing he had from the current administration.
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