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Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby jlw61 » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 09:44:21

IMHO, one of the more interesting and relevant threads, of late, is the Confessions of a Grocery Stocker.

Is there anyone else in the front lines of retail? I think interesting information could be gleaned from areas such as:

Car Mechanic
Plumber
Vending Sales
Services - Resteraunt, hotel, etc

To name but a few.


Before you post, please read the above thread to get an idea of what may be relevant information that will draw interest. Also, let's keep the threads (if they start) together. Personally, if there are other grocery stockers, I would love to see you posting on that thread so we can get a country wide view of the situation.

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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby VMarcHart » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 11:28:27

Sort of on these lines, or second-hand information if you will. I own a BMW and am a member of an internet forum. It circulated this weekend that (BMW) mechanics are seeing less cars these days, basically only for necessary repairs.
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby heartandseoul » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 11:30:08

I work part-time as a receptionist in an upscale hair salon. I feel that women will continue spending money on their hair until things get really bad. I haven't seen the weekly salon income reduced a whole lot - yet.
The clients we see are what I'd call upper middle-class and well-off retirees. I have seen them schedule fewer colors and hilights and maintain their hair cut schedule.
Our hair cuts are about $40 and a hilight/color process is upwards of $110.00.
We charge $20 for a child's cut and I have not seen a drop off in those clients yet, which really surprises me, but people say we're very close and they don't want to drive across town for a cheaper kids cut due to gas cost.

I do see people purchasing much fewer of the "upscale" hair care products. Our sales of those have dropped dramatically.

We have had more elderly clients who usually come in for their weekly shampoo set cancel them altogether or make them every other week. Many of them are on a fixed income.
We're raising our prices in September and the product prices have already increased a lot so I'm thinking I'll see more of a reduction in scheduling come fall.
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby burtonridr » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 11:38:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('heartandseoul', 'I') work part-time as a receptionist in an upscale hair salon. I feel that women will continue spending money on their hair until things get really bad. I haven't seen the weekly salon income reduced a whole lot - yet.
The clients we see are what I'd call upper middle-class and well-off retirees. I have seen them schedule fewer colors and hilights and maintain their hair cut schedule.
Our hair cuts are about $40 and a hilight/color process is upwards of $110.00.....


WTF They bitch about food prices and then go drop $110 on hair color!!

Do they realize how much food that is?
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 12:01:38

People prioritize based on their preferences. You might think buying steaks instead of chicken is more important than the color of your hair but there are people who disagree.

There are some who put looking nice above eating well.

Actually, a huge percentage of the female population chooses to look nice instead of eating well.

I work for a legislative tracking service and budget cuts in state government have lead to a few cancellations from some of the state agencies but the lobbyists are sticking around for the long haul.
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby burtonridr » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 12:19:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '
')There are some who put looking nice above eating well.

Actually, a huge percentage of the female population chooses to look nice instead of eating well.


If they only knew that looking good comes with eating well... :roll:

My how TV has warped our countries perception of real life....
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby harpbook » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 12:40:52

I wouldn't say I'm at the front lines of anything, but I run a rare book and art business in an affluent area about 2 hours east of NYC. Here are my impressions. Business is as strong as ever, if not stronger. My wealthy clients have not stopped buying, and my everyday customers are still doing their part. Furthermore, retail shops in my area are thriving and business is still strong. Home prices have decreased (but not tanked) and I get the sense that contractors may be hurting a bit, but you must remember that for the last 10 years there has been an unmitigated boom. So any slowdown must be seen in the light that people have done very well for a long time. My house cost about $450,000 in 2002. It was appraised at almost twice that in 2007. I have no doubt that I'd have a hard time selling for the highest price, but I could sell my house tomorrow for $650,000.

People are of course talking about the economic slowdown, but at least in this area there has been little actual fallout, yet.

By the way, I started reading this site about 6 weeks ago, and I have learned a tremendous amount about PO and how it relates to the economy and the world. Thanks.
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby PonyBoy78 » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 12:51:31

I'm not at retail front lines either, but I am in healthcare. We're seeing a notable decrease in ER patients this year.

In the last few years, we'd find our work night pacing to range from "steady" to "overwhelming." Now? It's pretty common that we send people home early due to lack of work.
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby vilemerchant » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 12:54:01

I live in Australia and work in liquor retail. Definitely a dropoff in sales in my store in the last 6 months. Hasn't deterred me however, i'm drinking more than ever.

People are much more price conscious, they come in when their favourite booze is on sale for the week and buy in bulk. I'm actually looking to build up a 6 month supply of beer (when the zombie hordes come knocking I plan to be drunk), and also hard liquor which has an unlimited shelf life, could be worth a fortune if supply gets disrupted.
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby Serial_Worrier » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 13:03:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vilemerchant', 'I') live in Australia and work in liquor retail. Definitely a dropoff in sales in my store in the last 6 months. Hasn't deterred me however, i'm drinking more than ever.

People are much more price conscious, they come in when their favourite booze is on sale for the week and buy in bulk. I'm actually looking to build up a 6 month supply of beer (when the zombie hordes come knocking I plan to be drunk), and also hard liquor which has an unlimited shelf life, could be worth a fortune if supply gets disrupted.


Good plan! :twisted:
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby jlw61 » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 13:06:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PonyBoy78', 'I')'m not at retail front lines either, but I am in healthcare. We're seeing a notable decrease in ER patients this year.

In the last few years, we'd find our work night pacing to range from "steady" to "overwhelming." Now? It's pretty common that we send people home early due to lack of work.



So is there any idea to what kind of problems have dropped off? For instance, broken bones or athsma attacks?
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby jlw61 » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 13:07:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('harpbook', 'I') wouldn't say I'm at the front lines of anything, but I run a rare book and art business in an affluent area about 2 hours east of NYC. Here are my impressions. Business is as strong as ever, if not stronger. My wealthy clients have not stopped buying, and my everyday customers are still doing their part. Furthermore, retail shops in my area are thriving and business is still strong. Home prices have decreased (but not tanked) and I get the sense that contractors may be hurting a bit, but you must remember that for the last 10 years there has been an unmitigated boom. So any slowdown must be seen in the light that people have done very well for a long time. My house cost about $450,000 in 2002. It was appraised at almost twice that in 2007. I have no doubt that I'd have a hard time selling for the highest price, but I could sell my house tomorrow for $650,000.

People are of course talking about the economic slowdown, but at least in this area there has been little actual fallout, yet.

By the way, I started reading this site about 6 weeks ago, and I have learned a tremendous amount about PO and how it relates to the economy and the world. Thanks.


Well, I would expect an affluent area to feel the affects last, however, being a book dealer may be a plus. I've seen a tremendous increase of customers at libraries and book stores.

Books are something that can not be replaced. Especially in a powerdown society.
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby PonyBoy78 » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 13:10:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jlw61', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PonyBoy78', 'I')'m not at retail front lines either, but I am in healthcare. We're seeing a notable decrease in ER patients this year.

In the last few years, we'd find our work night pacing to range from "steady" to "overwhelming." Now? It's pretty common that we send people home early due to lack of work.



So is there any idea to what kind of problems have dropped off? For instance, broken bones or athsma attacks?


I'm trying to figure that out; it's difficult to generalize. On Sunday nights (usually our busiest night of the week, believe it or not), we used to get lots of "my head/tummy aches - can I have a note to miss work tomorrow?" But not as much anymore.

We still get plenty of chest pain cases and broken bones - cases that are plainly emergent - but something's leading to this drop in numbers. I wonder sometimes if people are ignoring less chest pains or abdominal pains, hoping that it'll "just go away" so that they don't have to face an ER bill. Just my own theory though.
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby careinke » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 13:11:12

My future daughter in law works at a Mini Cooper dealer. She says business is booming at the dealership. As a matter of fact, they are in the proccess of opening another dealership in the state.

I guess Minni's are the way the rich downsize.

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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby jlw61 » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 13:12:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('burtonridr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '
')There are some who put looking nice above eating well.

Actually, a huge percentage of the female population chooses to look nice instead of eating well.


If they only knew that looking good comes with eating well... :roll:

My how TV has warped our countries perception of real life....


Well in all fairness, something that makes you "feel good" is priceless in keeping up your spirits. For instance, if I've been camping for a week, a hot shower is like heaven on a halfshell. For my wife, a shower and a touch of makeup makes her feel "human" in the morning.

In my experience, women like a little bit of pampering because so many have to pamper their significant others all week.
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby jlw61 » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 13:14:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PonyBoy78', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jlw61', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PonyBoy78', 'I')'m not at retail front lines either, but I am in healthcare. We're seeing a notable decrease in ER patients this year.

In the last few years, we'd find our work night pacing to range from "steady" to "overwhelming." Now? It's pretty common that we send people home early due to lack of work.



So is there any idea to what kind of problems have dropped off? For instance, broken bones or athsma attacks?


I'm trying to figure that out; it's difficult to generalize. On Sunday nights (usually our busiest night of the week, believe it or not), we used to get lots of "my head/tummy aches - can I have a note to miss work tomorrow?" But not as much anymore.

We still get plenty of chest pain cases and broken bones - cases that are plainly emergent - but something's leading to this drop in numbers. I wonder sometimes if people are ignoring less chest pains or abdominal pains, hoping that it'll "just go away" so that they don't have to face an ER bill. Just my own theory though.


If you (or any other ER person on this board) can get a better feel for the numbers, that could be quite interesting if we can find the underlying cause. Such as the tummy ache bit could be less excessive drinking?
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby jlw61 » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 13:17:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('VMarcHart', 'S')ort of on these lines, or second-hand information if you will. I own a BMW and am a member of an internet forum. It circulated this weekend that (BMW) mechanics are seeing less cars these days, basically only for necessary repairs.


Really? BMW people are slacking off? I would have guessed them to be less likely to slack off unless BMW owners tend to be overextended for apperances sake.
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby frankthetank » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 13:17:57

I talked to 2 different guys that live in the Minneapolis area. One deals with food distrubution (to resturants/etc) and the other is a contractor. The food guy didn't say anything specific about his line of work but did make the comment that the economy is going to collapse! The contractor said that guys in his field are going under left and right and its currently very "tight" and he has just enough small stuff to "make it".
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Re: Are you at the front lines of Retail?

Unread postby VMarcHart » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 13:21:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PonyBoy78', 'W')e're seeing a notable decrease in ER patients this year.
That's wild! We get less sick during hard times. Who'd think of that? Do you think it's because we do less activities, ie, biking, roller-staking, driving, building stuff, repairing houses, etc?

Incidentally, when I lived in France, a lot of people tended to get sick towards the end of summer, in order to get a notice not to show up for work for a week.
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Unread postby WisJim » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 13:26:47

A friend of mine has an orchard and greenhouse business (seperate businesses) in his extended family, and they were in business during the depression of the 1930s. His grandfather and uncles tell stories of how people weren't willing to buy fruit from the orchard, but would buy flowers, and when they started selling cheap imported toys, the toys sold like hotcakes. People were willing to spend more to feel good (toys and flowers) than to eat well.
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