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Fed leaves key rate unchanged (2%)

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 14:27:54

Is anyone convinced?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')CNNMoney.com
Fed leaves rates unchanged, ending 9-months of rate cuts
Wednesday June 25, 2:11 pm ET
By Chris Isidore, CNNMoney.com senior writer

The Federal Reserve left its key short-term interest rate unchanged Wednesday at 2%, marking the first time it held rates steady in the past nine months.

The widely expected move comes at a time when many economists are focusing more on inflation than on an economic slowdown. Some are predicting that the Fed will need to soon raise interest rates in order to keep rising prices in check.

In its statement, the Fed cited increasing inflation pressures caused by rising oil and other commodity prices. The central bank also said that the rate cuts it has already made should help lead to improved economic growth ahead.
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Re: Fed leaves key rate unchanged (2%)

Unread postby mattduke » Thu 26 Jun 2008, 14:17:18

It's too late now. Even if they raised from 2% to 8% today we would still get hyperinflation. We are past the point of no return.
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Re: Fed leaves key rate unchanged (2%)

Unread postby FoxV » Thu 26 Jun 2008, 15:01:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'I')t's too late now. Even if they raised from 2% to 8% today we would still get hyperinflation. We are past the point of no return.


yup, and judging from the fact that gold went up $10 when he opened his mouth, and $30 today, looks like the market is starting to realize it.
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Re: Fed leaves key rate unchanged (2%)

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Thu 26 Jun 2008, 17:35:35

Anyone feel an emergency cut coming over the weekend, esp. if we get another down day tomorrow?

I think a 100bp cut (down to 1%) might do for another dead cat bounce, inflation be damned.
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Re: Fed leaves key rate unchanged (2%)

Unread postby Byron100 » Thu 26 Jun 2008, 17:46:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'A')nyone feel an emergency cut coming over the weekend, esp. if we get another down day tomorrow?

I think a 100bp cut (down to 1%) might do for another dead cat bounce, inflation be damned.


What, are you crazy?? If he cut 100 bp on Saturday, just b/c the market puked 2 days in a row, the dollar would drop to like 50 on Monday, and it wouldn't stop there.

Even Mr Bendover himself knows he needs to tighten...desperately. I think the big question at this point is whether he'll go with a 25 or 50 bp increase at the August meeting, and repeat again in September.

Of course, we're flocked no matter what he does, so I guess it doesn't really matter at this point...hehe. :wink:
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Re: Fed leaves key rate unchanged (2%)

Unread postby biofuel13 » Thu 26 Jun 2008, 17:51:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'A')nyone feel an emergency cut coming over the weekend, esp. if we get another down day tomorrow?

I think a 100bp cut (down to 1%) might do for another dead cat bounce, inflation be damned.


No, no, no! The Fed doesn't dare cut anymore than they have. They can't let inflation go any higher or faster than it's current rate. On the other hand they don't dare raise rates either or it will all come crashing down. The Fed is paralyzed and powerless at this point. Nothing but a whole lotta talk.
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Re: Fed leaves key rate unchanged (2%)

Unread postby Kingcoal » Thu 26 Jun 2008, 17:57:06

I have a funny feeling that the emergency squad will be meeting this weekend. Things look bad, it's a perfect storm - I've never seen a more perfect recipe for disaster in my life and at the eye of the storm is oil, or lack thereof. See, what this generation doesn't understand is that oil isn't going to prop us up this time. If it were the good old days with cheap oil, the credit crunch, trillions in bad debt, over done debt monetization would all be just another shell game, a temporary inconvenience.
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Re: Fed leaves key rate unchanged (2%)

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Thu 26 Jun 2008, 23:02:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('biofuel13', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'A')nyone feel an emergency cut coming over the weekend, esp. if we get another down day tomorrow?

I think a 100bp cut (down to 1%) might do for another dead cat bounce, inflation be damned.


No, no, no! The Fed doesn't dare cut anymore than they have. They can't let inflation go any higher or faster than it's current rate. On the other hand they don't dare raise rates either or it will all come crashing down. The Fed is paralyzed and powerless at this point. Nothing but a whole lotta talk.


It's plain to see that the FED has the US government at its disposal to manipulate inflation statistics to their whim. Why else would the government post a CPI of less than 5%, if it were any other case? I think we could go to ZERO and the CPI would barely move, at least the way we measure it. :roll:
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Re: Fed leaves key rate unchanged (2%)

Unread postby DantesPeak » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 00:07:14

The 2% interest rate talk distracts from the most important issue: the rapid debasement of the US dollar by the Fed.

The dollar has moved from mostly being backed by US treasury bills to now being 60% backed by loans to failing banks and brokers, and other derivatives - mostly mortgage related.

I give hyperinflation a good chance of taking off this year. You say wages won't grow that fast? True but that won't stop rapid price increases. Dow raised the price of everything plastic 45% already. It won't be much longer to the consumer is hit with a killer wave of inflation.

I predict tax cuts, rebates, etc., - this year - by the government to make up for lost spending power.
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Re: Fed leaves key rate unchanged (2%)

Unread postby Jack » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 00:40:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DantesPeak', 'I') predict tax cuts, rebates, etc., - this year - by the government to make up for lost spending power.


I agree. In addition, we as a nation have a fear of the great depression - the soup lines, if you will. We will do just about anything to avoid it.

Looks like commodities will be profitable.

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Re: Fed leaves key rate unchanged (2%)

Unread postby FoxV » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 13:04:57

well the worm is definitely turning and money is flooding back into gold miners like there's no tomorrow (perhaps there is).

my gold miners ETF (XGD.TO) was up 4% yesterday, and another 4% today already. Although I'm suspicious of short covering. Monday will probably be a sizable drop.

Also in the Worm turning category, the Canadian TSX is now 5% above its previous all time high (August). More signs of money coming into commodities
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Re: Fed leaves key rate unchanged (2%)

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 13:36:44

Current inflation, using the Fed's own data, is well over 4% and the key rate is only 2%?!?!

The Fed's current monetary policy is looser than Charles Manson's grip on reality!

If they don't raise rates at the next meeting, we are doomed to repeat the misery of the 1970s.

The only question is how long are the Chinese and Saudis going to continue loaning the Federal Government money at 4%?

I think we could see dramatically higher long term interest rates within the next year.
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Re: Fed leaves key rate unchanged (2%)

Unread postby Kingcoal » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 15:49:20

Another funny observation is how the market reacts to a hold in rate as if it were an increase.
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Re: Fed leaves key rate unchanged (2%)

Unread postby heroineworshipper » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 19:33:46

At least this time they pushed out the inflation moderation sentence to December instead of saying it would happen next month like they normally do. Your government now has slightly more imagination than a venture capitalist.
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