[emersonbiggins]

...like a deer in the headlights.

We briefly discussed the price of gas, and the [much older than I] guy commented that gasoline should be coming back down, possibly to the $2 range, within a few months. I disagreed politely, and then he hit me with the one-two punch:

1. Why aren't we drilling the off limits areas of the U.S. and putting the Sauds out of business? "Bakken is huge, larger than SA"

2. Why haven't we built a refinery in 30 years?

Well, I was taken aback, and mentioned something refineries not getting built because there won't be a need for them; he looked on in disbelief, cursed something under his breath and walked away, quite miffed.

Thankfully, this is a huge office, but I wasn't prepared for this particular conversation, at least off-the-cuff this morning.

And, at no time did the words "peak oil" come out of my mouth.

Ugh.

[BigTex]

I thought you were going to say that someone showed you their biggins.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'I') thought you were going to say that someone showed you their biggins.

[dunewalker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '.')..like a deer in the headlights.
We briefly discussed the price of gas, and the [much older than I] guy commented that gasoline should be coming back down, possibly to the $2 range, within a few months. I disagreed politely, and then he hit me with the one-two punch:
1. Why aren't we drilling the off limits areas of the U.S. and putting the Sauds out of business? "Bakken is huge, larger than SA"
2. Why haven't we built a refinery in 30 years?
Well, I was taken aback, and mentioned something refineries not getting built because there won't be a need for them; he looked on in disbelief, cursed something under his breath and walked away, quite miffed.
Thankfully, this is a huge office, but I wasn't prepared for this particular conversation, at least off-the-cuff this morning.
And, at no time did the words "peak oil" come out of my mouth.
Ugh.

[emersonbiggins]

That's true. I suspect part of why this happened is that I am fairly young (mid-20s), and this man is 40 years my senior. "What the hell would this kid know?" What I see is someone not getting the big picture, which is all I focus on anymore.

[jedinvest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'T')hat's true. I suspect part of why this happened is that I am fairly young (mid-20s), and this man is 40 years my senior. "What the hell would this kid know?" What I see is someone not getting the big picture, which is all I focus on anymore.

[dunewalker]

I was holding down the fort at the local bookstore for a few hours yesterday. A high school-age woman came in and browsed for awhile. Then she brought a book to the counter to buy: "The Road" by Cormac McCarthy. Partly to be flirty, I said: "Are you sure you're ready for this? It will change your entire outlook on life". Her reply was: "I can handle that for a couple of weeks right now". The conversation ended with my: "No, I mean forever".

[IndigoMoon]

I am new to this board but not to the concept. When I discussed it with both my 21 year old and 24 year old boys over the weekend, they were already aware. They didn't want to bring it up first because they didn't want me to think they were nuts.

[cowuvula]

I always say
"I hope gas doesn't go much higher."
and try not to laugh.

That seems to mollify them.

They will find out later

[lawnchair]

My answers would be:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '1'). Why aren't we drilling the off limits areas of the U.S. and putting the Sauds out of business? "Bakken is huge, larger than SA"

[emeraldg40]

Where do I look for the answer to the older mans question? Seems I havnt an answer either. Why hasnt there been a new refinery? I guess some of us older people seem to remember the footage of US Presidents bowing to the Saudis way back when. All I have ever heard is this: The oil comes out of Saudi Arabia very clean and dosnt need so much refining. Is that true? So if it is then I can assume the oil under the Canadian TAR sands is very dirty? Has this always been about the refining and not the amount? The other rumours are that the price increase is just about speculators. Im a lucky American at this point because Ive had 5 years to get ready for this. Im not surprised by the price of gas, I expect it to rise even more. I would just like the truth. Is it about Peak, speculators or a combination of both?

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dunewalker', 'I') was holding down the fort at the local bookstore for a few hours yesterday. A high school-age woman came in and browsed for awhile. Then she brought a book to the counter to buy: "The Road" by Cormac McCarthy. Partly to be flirty, I said: "Are you sure you're ready for this? It will change your entire outlook on life." Her reply was: "I can handle that for a couple of weeks right now". The conversation ended with my: "No, I mean forever".

[JJ]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IndigoMoon', 'I') am new to this board but not to the concept. When I discussed it with both my 21 year old and 24 year old boys over the weekend, they were already aware. They didn't want to bring it up first because they didn't want me to think they were nuts.

[Pops]

The explaination is simple:

If ya can't find it, you can't pump it.

Discoveries in the US peaked in the '30s and 40 years later so did production.

Worldwide, discoveries peaked in the '60s and here we are 40 years later...

Everything else is detail.

[emersonbiggins]

Succinct, straight talk - I like it.

[dunewalker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emeraldg40', ' ') All I have ever heard is this: The oil comes out of Saudi Arabia very clean and dosnt need so much refining. Is that true? So if it is then I can assume the oil under the Canadian TAR sands is very dirty? Has this always been about the refining and not the amount?

[emeraldg40]

Thanks!

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emeraldg40', 'W')here do I look for the answer to the older mans question? Seems I havnt an answer either. Why hasnt there been a new refinery? I guess some of us older people seem to remember the footage of US Presidents bowing to the Saudis way back when. All I have ever heard is this: The oil comes out of Saudi Arabia very clean and dosnt need so much refining. Is that true? So if it is then I can assume the oil under the Canadian TAR sands is very dirty? Has this always been about the refining and not the amount? The other rumours are that the price increase is just about speculators. Im a lucky American at this point because Ive had 5 years to get ready for this. Im not surprised by the price of gas, I expect it to rise even more. I would just like the truth. Is it about Peak, speculators or a combination of both?