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The most delusional person in America

Unread postby UncoveringTruths » Thu 15 May 2008, 16:37:03

I pulled this off another forum. The thread had four pages of comments that seemed to be rationalizing the issue until this goofball posted. I just thought ya'll would either laugh or speed up your preps by reading this. Please don't shoot the messenger.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')his is a complex issue. it's not just about gas prices. global as well as internal issues have created the situation we are in. There are not only economic but social issues underlying the cause. First and foremost it's all the candya$$ed non patriotic liberals that have put us in this situation. Lets get one thing straight, it's our God given rights as Americans to have cheap gas. Period. I don't care what everyone one else in the world has been paying for gas over the years, that doesn't matter. There are several factors that have cuased these price increases, among those global demand, an antiquated delivery platform from hole to pump unable to keep up with global demand, and the decay of the "American Man".

Problem one: how to deal with global demand. Obviously with the economic growth of india and china demand would have to grow. So we need to do something to stop their growth. We have two options, and neither is acceptable by liberals, but the old "American Man" would have no problem with either. Solution one: blow them away. 2 billion people gone, quite a bit of demand eliminated going forward, cheap gas available once again. On a side note, 2 billion less people may also cause a decrease in global warming. Solution two, tank our economy. Let the housing market crash, quit supporting it with ineffective legislation, govt funded corporate bailouts, and interest cuts. It's a hard pill to swallow but it would be short term, and we would recover more quickly than the world. Once we let the housing market crash and realize it's true market valuation, the global economy would follow suit and crash as well (that's one of the benefits of being the largest consumer market in the world). Solution three: take the oil. what's the point in having the best military in the world if we don't use it right. There's a reason for 250k to 500k soldiers being in the middle east, use them. Take the oil fields, expatriate the oil. Of course i'm pretty sure all the liberals would consider these options unacceptable and extreme, but there was a time when men were men and not afriad to do what had to be done.

On a side note it's our fault global economies are growing, we made the demand for their cheap products. If we'd stick to paying for american goods (and to those liberals that are gonna sqwak that american products aren't as good as overseas ones, if that was true then we wouldn't have won both big wars, not to mention that would lead to say that they the people over there are better than americans since we are made here) then we wouldn't have lost so many jobs overseas, and we wouldn't be funneling all that money overseas as well.

Another factor in high prices, once again caused by the liberals is the oil base and fuels types that are legislated for us to use. The gas used in other countries isn't the same quality legislated here. The liberals have made it so we have to use a supposedly "lower polluting" "cleaner burning" fuel. If we'd waive some of those requirements we could bring in cheaper "dirtier" fuel. Would work the same in my truck just wouldn't cost as much. Again the liberals will sqwak about global warming and what not. To that effect I believe china fires up a new high polluting coal plant every month, so our meager fuel contraints aren't really helping global warming if we continue to allow other countries to pollute freely (obvious this problem can be fixed with solution one above).

There's no quick fix for inadequate infrastructure to keep up with demand, this will take time to build more pipelines, refineries, plants, ship yards and so forth. But we should begin to see relief from this development in the next 5- 7 years.

So in conclusion ( and i have to cut this short since i'm at work and am running out of lunch time) the main thing that needs to happen in this country is men need to grow their balls back and be men. Make this country the once powerful, feared nation it once was. Instead of pining about cutting back, we should use are might to invoke our will on the world. After all, WE ARE AMERICANS and it's time we started acting like that instead of acting like the french.
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Re: The most delusional person in America

Unread postby Grifter » Thu 15 May 2008, 16:53:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'i')nstead of acting like the french.


:lol:

that one still gets me.
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Re: The most delusional person in America

Unread postby Ludi » Thu 15 May 2008, 17:01:33

I wonder in what way that guy is "acting like an American" with balls? What's he doing, actually?

Posting on a messageboard?

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Re: The most delusional person in America

Unread postby UncoveringTruths » Thu 15 May 2008, 17:16:52

Here's another one on Jack Cafferty's blog asking if we should lower the speed limit.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')o it shouldn’t. Their is no shortage of oil. It is a scam by wall street ,the bush administration , opec and the oil companies. That 55 mile an hour is fine to do if you live in a city . It doesn’t hold water for rural America. It only allows the states to get richer by handing out speeding tickets. Besides Jack all them experts that advise the president and congress such as the economist are the reason this country is in the shape it is in. Take a couple of economic courses, listen to the foolish B.S. they propose , then get someone who has a decent education from a state college instead of Harvard or Yale to run the country and it will get straighten out. I rest my case by pointing out were all our last few presidents and contenders have graduated from.


Should speed limit be lowered to 55 mph?
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Re: The most delusional person in America

Unread postby Grifter » Thu 15 May 2008, 17:24:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('UncoveringTruths', 'H')ere's another one on Jack Cafferty's blog asking if we should lower the speed limit.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')o it shouldn’t. Their is no shortage of oil. It is a scam by wall street ,the bush administration , opec and the oil companies. That 55 mile an hour is fine to do if you live in a city . It doesn’t hold water for rural America. It only allows the states to get richer by handing out speeding tickets. Besides Jack all them experts that advise the president and congress such as the economist are the reason this country is in the shape it is in. Take a couple of economic courses, listen to the foolish B.S. they propose , then get someone who has a decent education from a state college instead of Harvard or Yale to run the country and it will get straighten out. I rest my case by pointing out were all our last few presidents and contenders have graduated from.


Should speed limit be lowered to 55 mph?


I use Jevons to argue against speed limits. I think thats a much better way to state your case. Conservation due to scarcity leads to more people being able to use it and thus, the end comes quicker.

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Re: The most delusional person in America

Unread postby BigTex » Thu 15 May 2008, 17:35:29

I vote for Sean Hannity.
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Re: The most delusional person in America

Unread postby dbruning » Thu 15 May 2008, 18:02:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'i')t's our God given rights as Americans to have cheap gas. Period.


Guy must be related to Cheney.
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Re: The most delusional person in America

Unread postby BigTex » Thu 15 May 2008, 18:16:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', 'W')hen the Yanks are flying, EVERYBODY takes cover.


Iceman: "I don't like you because you're dangerous."

Maverick: "That's right Ice.....Man. I am dangerous."

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The following is an explanation of the Top Gun homosexual subterfuge (just in case you're interested):

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Overview

There are certain basic premises on needs to grasp in order to understand the 'Top Gun is Gay' theorem. Firstly, the basis of the film is that Maverick (Tom Cruise) is struggling to understand his sexuality.

Maverick is right on the homo/hetero line and doesn't know which way to turn. This is where the supporting characters enter, their function in their film being to battle for the sexuality of Maverick.

A further premise to keep in mind is the symbolism contained within the actual act of flying fighter planes. We are presented throughout the film with the idea of partners - every pilot has a wingman with whom they can share the flight experience, a physically and mentally draining experience, comparable with sexual intercourse. Of course, this supports the notion of a homoerotic subtext.

Characters & Their Relationships to Maverick

'Iceman'

The most important aspect to remember about Iceman's character is that he is the unofficial leader of the pilots at the Top Gun Academy - he is the best, and eventually wins the title of Top Gun ahead of Maverick. What Iceman represents however, is homosexuality, as do the other pilots at Top Gun. He is trying to entice Maverick over to homosexuality throughout. His general iconography and appearance smack of gayness, from the bleach blonde highlights and hair gel, to the macho-man walk and hand-on-hip stances he adopts at numerous points during the film.

Val Kilmer plays Maverick's nemesis - the pair are constantly confronting one another, in the air and on the ground. However, the sparring seems to stem from a distinct sexual tension. Both Maverick and Iceman came to the Top Gun Academy with reputations as the best of the best - Iceman is literally like Ice; cold, frozen, knows and follows all the rules. Maverick also lives up to his name - like Ice he knows the rules.... just so he can break them.

However, the underlying reasons for their disputes stems not from their opposing flight styles, but from the fact that Maverick is a genuine threat to Iceman's dominance. Watch the film - Maverick is constantly seen as the cocky outsider, ready with the sarcastic swipes and witticisms, most notably in the first briefing session with Kelly McGillis' character, Charlie.

Maverick tells the story of the encounter with the Russian MIGs, and the pilots laugh along with him - Iceman does not laugh; his leadership and superiority are being threatened. The strict rules he follows - those of flying and of homosexuality - do not allow him to weaken in the face of this pseudo-heterosexual, probably because of the hardship he has faced as a homosexual in a heterosexual world.

Unwittingly, Maverick has joined the homosexuals, he is part of the fighter pilots gay group. He dresses the same as them, he sits with them, he flies, eats, drinks, and sleeps with them. But due to his confusion over his sexuality, Maverick is unaware of the informal gay hierarchy headed by Iceman. The heterosexual nature of Maverick, it is what he has lived as so far in his life, is interfering with the gay pilot hegemony, an unwelcome and unsettling influence on the newly gay pilots who have entered the academy, something which causes friction between Ice and Mav.

Charlie

Kelly McGillis' Charlie is the antithesis of Kilmer's Iceman. She is classically beautiful, blonde hair, blue eyes, etc, the archetypal object of desire for any red-blooded male. However, due once again to Maverick's confusion over his sexuality, he also clashes with her as he does with Ice. Without the guiding rules or either homosexuality or heterosexuality, Maverick is left in a limbo state - not knowing how to act with Charlie or Iceman. (Note also the sexually ambiguous name, which further confuses the issue of sexuality).

Charlie provides Maverick with a heterosexual goal - the scene where he sings 'You've Lost That Loving Feeling' in the bar highlights this; Maverick seems to genuinely want to be straight, but the setting of the scene - Maverick facing Charlie who is alone, behind him stand the Top Gun flight crew - displays literally how he is caught between being gay and straight.

The pivotal point in the movie however, is where Mav seems to succumb to the lure of heterosexuality - Maverick goes to Charlie's house, where it appears that they are going to have sex. They talk for a long time, and there is a slow build up of sexual tension. Maverick showers, but inexplicably rides away on his motorbike. (Interestingly, the motorbike is an integral part of Maverick, used as a phallic symbol to connote his manliness, and also of power residing within the individual, he is alone when he rides the bike). Charlie watches him leave and ride away from the bedroom window, with a facial expression made up of confusion, anger and contemplation.

The next scene Mav is back at Top Gun the morning after, he waits for an elevator. The door opens, and Charlie is there, dressed as one of the pilots - she is wearing the aviator sunglasses, the flight suit, the jacket, all that the gay Ice-men wear. The idea? To win back Maverick from the gay side; by dressing and acting like a pilot, she hopes to simultaneously appeal to the side of Mav that makes him find the fly-boys so attractive, whilst also reminding him that she as a heterosexual woman can provide an equal amount of, if not more, sexual gratification, and the promise of returning to 'normality' and heterosexuality. However, Maverick is not fooled by this subterfuge.

'Goose'

Goose is Maverick's best friend and his 'wingman', from the beginning of the film. Note the camp moustache, and also the hand on hip pose and haircut that are almost identical to the gay traits of Iceman. The 'wingman' is the copilot - someone whom the pilot must trust implicitly, and vice versa. Immediately this indicates a strong bond between the two. The idea of the relationship between pilot and wingman is representative of a human relationship, the two become one in a plane, as two become one in marriage or a serious loving relationship. Everyone at Top Gun has a wingman, and so all have a partner with which they share the flight experience.

Unfortunately, Goose gets killed when he and maverick are involved in a training accident. Maverick, as pilot, blames himself wholly, which nearly costs him his career as a Top Gun pilot, as the cocksure and confident Mav we saw in abundance at the beginning of the film is undermined. We also see Mav at his most emotional as he grieves for Goose in a totally defenceless and cathartic manner. Although I am not saying this form of emotional display in itself is indicative of homosexuality, within the context of a film that is intrinsically interwoven with male bravado and machismo, such emotion is so out of place. Therefore, I believe that unconsciously, it shows a deep emotional and spiritual bond between Goose and Mav, something that ventures beyond love on a purely plutonic level.

The name 'Goose' also has sexual connotations, i.e. the slang term 'to goose' someone.
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Re: The most delusional person in America

Unread postby dorlomin » Thu 15 May 2008, 19:12:05

The volly ball scene is gayer than Whams Club Tropicana video.
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Re: The most delusional person in America

Unread postby BigTex » Thu 15 May 2008, 20:40:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', 'T')he volly ball scene is gayer than Whams Club Tropicana video.


That was just foreplay before they went into the "Danger Zone"
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Re: The most delusional person in America

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Re: The most delusional person in America

Unread postby arretium » Fri 16 May 2008, 08:39:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('UncoveringTruths', 'I') pulled this off another forum. The thread had four pages of comments that seemed to be rationalizing the issue until this goofball posted. I just thought ya'll would either laugh or speed up your preps by reading this. Please don't shoot the messenger.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')his is a complex issue. it's not just about gas prices. global as well as internal issues have created the situation we are in. There are not only economic but social issues underlying the cause. First and foremost it's all the candya$$ed non patriotic liberals that have put us in this situation. Lets get one thing straight, it's our God given rights as Americans to have cheap gas. Period. I don't care what everyone one else in the world has been paying for gas over the years, that doesn't matter. There are several factors that have cuased these price increases, among those global demand, an antiquated delivery platform from hole to pump unable to keep up with global demand, and the decay of the "American Man".

Problem one: how to deal with global demand. Obviously with the economic growth of india and china demand would have to grow. So we need to do something to stop their growth. We have two options, and neither is acceptable by liberals, but the old "American Man" would have no problem with either. Solution one: blow them away. 2 billion people gone, quite a bit of demand eliminated going forward, cheap gas available once again. On a side note, 2 billion less people may also cause a decrease in global warming. Solution two, tank our economy. Let the housing market crash, quit supporting it with ineffective legislation, govt funded corporate bailouts, and interest cuts. It's a hard pill to swallow but it would be short term, and we would recover more quickly than the world. Once we let the housing market crash and realize it's true market valuation, the global economy would follow suit and crash as well (that's one of the benefits of being the largest consumer market in the world). Solution three: take the oil. what's the point in having the best military in the world if we don't use it right. There's a reason for 250k to 500k soldiers being in the middle east, use them. Take the oil fields, expatriate the oil. Of course i'm pretty sure all the liberals would consider these options unacceptable and extreme, but there was a time when men were men and not afriad to do what had to be done.

On a side note it's our fault global economies are growing, we made the demand for their cheap products. If we'd stick to paying for american goods (and to those liberals that are gonna sqwak that american products aren't as good as overseas ones, if that was true then we wouldn't have won both big wars, not to mention that would lead to say that they the people over there are better than americans since we are made here) then we wouldn't have lost so many jobs overseas, and we wouldn't be funneling all that money overseas as well.

Another factor in high prices, once again caused by the liberals is the oil base and fuels types that are legislated for us to use. The gas used in other countries isn't the same quality legislated here. The liberals have made it so we have to use a supposedly "lower polluting" "cleaner burning" fuel. If we'd waive some of those requirements we could bring in cheaper "dirtier" fuel. Would work the same in my truck just wouldn't cost as much. Again the liberals will sqwak about global warming and what not. To that effect I believe china fires up a new high polluting coal plant every month, so our meager fuel contraints aren't really helping global warming if we continue to allow other countries to pollute freely (obvious this problem can be fixed with solution one above).

There's no quick fix for inadequate infrastructure to keep up with demand, this will take time to build more pipelines, refineries, plants, ship yards and so forth. But we should begin to see relief from this development in the next 5- 7 years.

So in conclusion ( and i have to cut this short since i'm at work and am running out of lunch time) the main thing that needs to happen in this country is men need to grow their balls back and be men. Make this country the once powerful, feared nation it once was. Instead of pining about cutting back, we should use are might to invoke our will on the world. After all, WE ARE AMERICANS and it's time we started acting like that instead of acting like the french.


If this guy is right, why don't we just kill all the liberals here in Amerika. Doesn't that solve the problem? Then we can nuke the chinese/indians. Then, 2 billion less people plus the worthless libs here in the U.S. Then, cheap gas for all the peeps left in America. Heil Hitler!
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