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Unread postby jasonraymondson » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 21:37:07

I am starting a service with a couple of girls offering topless house cleaning. I have the girls already to go, but I am wondering about the legality of this. There will be no sexual contact, or anything else sexual and I will go along when we have a new client to insure their safety.

These are just girls at my college who wish to make some extra money.

What do you think?

I am taking 20% of each job.

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It is just professional house cleaning with a bonus.
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Unread postby dinopello » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 21:52:43

There are plenty of advertised services of this nature if you just google it, so I would guess it is legal (subject to local ordinance maybe). I think you aren't serious though. Got a website yet ? Until it's on the intertubes, it ain't real.
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Unread postby jasonraymondson » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 21:58:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'T')here are plenty of advertised services of this nature if you just google it, so I would guess it is legal (subject to local ordinance maybe). I think you aren't serious though. Got a website yet ? Until it's on the intertubes, it ain't real.



But the intertubes are full. I'll need to send some lottery balls down the tubes to clean it out.
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Unread postby auscanman » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 22:08:28

Legal for sure. If there's no touching involved whatsoever, they're just providing a legal service (cleaning) in private residences.

That said, I think you're almost inevitably going to have an incident involving a client touching one of the cleaners. You should definitely be present every time these girls are cleaning. If they got touched when you aren't present you could potentially be sued for not adequately protecting them on the job. Also, you'll want to spell out in detail the service that's being provided, and that your clients are not to touch the cleaners at all, in your client contract. I would also suggest that you get the girls you employ to sign a detailed employment contract. An informal arrangement is just asking for trouble with something like this.
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Unread postby Nicholai » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 22:20:03

Dude you should heir Margaret Atwood, she's a feminist but I'm sure she wouldn't mind the job opportunity.

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I mean sure I'd pay her to keep her shirt on but she might pick up some business among old male college professor demographic?
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 22:22:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('auscanman', 'L')egal for sure. If there's no touching involved whatsoever, they're just providing a legal service (cleaning) in private residences.

That said, I think you're almost inevitably going to have an incident involving a client touching one of the cleaners. You should definitely be present every time these girls are cleaning. If they got touched when you aren't present you could potentially be sued for not adequately protecting them on the job. Also, you'll want to spell out in detail the service that's being provided, and that your clients are not to touch the cleaners at all, in your client contract. I would also suggest that you get the girls you employ to sign a detailed employment contract. An informal arrangement is just asking for trouble with something like this.



Good advice, thank you.

That was what I was looking for.
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Unread postby BigTex » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 22:25:04

Don't do that.

You may be a 4 star general one day. This could keep you from a JCS gig.

Call it what you like. You're going to be a maid pimp.
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Unread postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 22:55:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I') am starting a service with a couple of girls offering topless house cleaning. I have the girls already to go, but I am wondering about the legality of this. There will be no sexual contact, or anything else sexual and I will go along when we have a new client to insure their safety.

These are just girls at my college who wish to make some extra money.

What do you think?

I am taking 20% of each job.

j

It is just professional house cleaning with a bonus.


They should just cut out the middleman (you) and become strippers.

How much would they charge per topless cleaning job?
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Unread postby pup55 » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 23:00:50

you will be able to get away with it until someone complains about it, namely the spouse of one of the clients.

Suggestion: Keep a diary of all of your activities. Your "made for TV movie" or book deal could prove to be much more lucrative than the actual business.
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 23:07:10

I doubt some sexually-deprived perv (who else would use this service) is just gonna sit there while some attractive women cleans with her tits hanging out. You better give each chick a tasergun or at least a can of mace.

Btw, how did you approach these women with this business propostion? What did you say that got them to agree to it? You must have one hell of a persuasive tongue.
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 23:14:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I') am starting a service with a couple of girls offering topless house cleaning. I have the girls already to go, but I am wondering about the legality of this. There will be no sexual contact, or anything else sexual and I will go along when we have a new client to insure their safety.

These are just girls at my college who wish to make some extra money.

What do you think?

I am taking 20% of each job.

j




They should just cut out the middleman (you) and become strippers.

How much would they charge per topless cleaning job?


between 100 - 300 per hour

I have 7 clients now lined up
It is just professional house cleaning with a bonus.
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Unread postby jasonraymondson » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 23:20:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', 'I') doubt some sexually-deprived perv (who else would use this service) is just gonna sit there while some attractive women cleans with her tits hanging out. You better give each chick a tasergun or at least a can of mace.

Btw, how did you approach these women with this business propostion? What did you say that got them to agree to it? You must have one hell of a persuasive tongue.


That is why each girl is body guarded.

Well, one girl approached me and asked if there was a way to make 100 really quick. I laughed, she got embarrassed. I said uhm then not many. She said crap. Then I said, have you ever thought about being a topless maid. Two cute girls behind me laughed and asked how much they could make doing that and I said between 100 - 300 per job and they went holy shit, sign us up. Then they asked my fee and I told them 25% but then said na for 3 super sexy ladies such as yourselves I will drop it to 20%, but I need to see the goods first. So they agreed and we went back to my room and they disrobed.

sounds like the start to penthouse forum situation, but that was pretty much all there was to it.

Now they want to work for me, and it looks like I am going to get some later from the first girl.
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Unread postby BigTex » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 23:23:01

Working it like a young Larry Flynt.

Nice.
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Unread postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 23:52:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'D')on't do that.

You may be a 4 star general one day. This could keep you from a JCS gig.

Call it what you like. You're going to be a maid pimp.


Who cares about being a general when you be the next Hugh Hefner?
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Unread postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 23:56:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', 'I') doubt some sexually-deprived perv (who else would use this service) is just gonna sit there while some attractive women cleans with her tits hanging out. You better give each chick a tasergun or at least a can of mace.

Btw, how did you approach these women with this business propostion? What did you say that got them to agree to it? You must have one hell of a persuasive tongue.


That is why each girl is body guarded.

Well, one girl approached me and asked if there was a way to make 100 really quick. I laughed, she got embarrassed. I said uhm then not many. She said crap. Then I said, have you ever thought about being a topless maid. Two cute girls behind me laughed and asked how much they could make doing that and I said between 100 - 300 per job and they went holy shit, sign us up. Then they asked my fee and I told them 25% but then said na for 3 super sexy ladies such as yourselves I will drop it to 20%, but I need to see the goods first. So they agreed and we went back to my room and they disrobed.

sounds like the start to penthouse forum situation, but that was pretty much all there was to it.

Now they want to work for me, and it looks like I am going to get some later from the first girl.


You're the man. I envy you. I need to move to a college town.
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Unread postby BigTex » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 00:08:04

I knew a fellow who had a crazy roommate one time. The roommate announced one night that he was going to start escorting prostitutes on dates. "Kind of like a pimp?" I asked.

No, he insisted, just an escort. Whatever, I thought.

I was over there another time when the roommate came running in looking all scruffy and like he hadn't slept in a while and grabbed a few items and was running out when I said "hey man, what's up?"

"I got to get the fuck out of here man!" he said, breathlessly, like someone was chasing him.

After he left I wondered how the pimp game was working for him.
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Unread postby mmasters » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 00:14:10

YOU PIMP DADDY YOU!
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Unread postby BigTex » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 00:18:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'Y')OU PIMP DADDY YOU!


The moral of my story was that pimping sucks.

OTOH, as Ice Cube said, "Pimpin' aint easy but it's necessary."

It probably depends on your stable of hos.
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Unread postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 00:29:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'I') knew a fellow who had a crazy roommate one time. The roommate announced one night that he was going to start escorting prostitutes on dates. "Kind of like a pimp?" I asked.

No, he insisted, just an escort. Whatever, I thought.

I was over there another time when the roommate came running in looking all scruffy and like he hadn't slept in a while and grabbed a few items and was running out when I said "hey man, what's up?"

"I got to get the fuck out of here man!" he said, breathlessly, like someone was chasing him.

After he left I wondered how the pimp game was working for him.


That's pretty fucking funny. What ever became of him? Was he ever heard from again?
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Unread postby BigTex » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 00:38:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'I') knew a fellow who had a crazy roommate one time. The roommate announced one night that he was going to start escorting prostitutes on dates. "Kind of like a pimp?" I asked.

No, he insisted, just an escort. Whatever, I thought.

I was over there another time when the roommate came running in looking all scruffy and like he hadn't slept in a while and grabbed a few items and was running out when I said "hey man, what's up?"

"I got to get the fuck out of here man!" he said, breathlessly, like someone was chasing him.

After he left I wondered how the pimp game was working for him.


That's pretty fucking funny. What ever became of him? Was he ever heard from again?


Naa, but my buddy was a bit of a blacksheep himself. I lived in Austin back then, and things were a little looser down there in those days.

Not too unusual to have a roommate run away and never return in Austin. Anyone who has lived there will know what I mean. I had a neighbor who used his window to enter and exit the house. He and his roommate had gotten into a fight and his roommate nailed his door shut. Rather than fighting about it, he just treated it as a duplex from then on.

I once saw two women bicycling topless down a busy street. They had that real serious cyclist look on their faces, just no tops. Maybe trying to cut down on weight or something.

Austin used to be a fun place. It's a little crowded and expensive now.
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