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Oil price closes above $100

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 18:02:23

$100.01, to be exact. $100 will look cheap in 5 years, I'm sure.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')AP Oil Jumps Above $100 on Refinery Outage
Tuesday February 19, 3:08 pm ET By John Wilen, AP Business Writer
Oil Jumps Back Above $100 on a Texas Refinery Outage and Possible OPEC Production Cut

NEW YORK (AP) -- Oil futures shot higher Tuesday, closing above $100 for the first time as investors bet that crude prices will keep climbing despite evidence of plentiful supplies and falling demand. At the pump, gas prices rose further above $3 a gallon.

There was no single driver behind oil's sharp price jump; investors seized on an explosion at a 67,000 barrel per day refinery in Texas, the falling dollar, the possibility that OPEC may cut production next month, and continuing tensions between the U.S. and Venezuela.

Gasoline and heating oil prices appeared to be leading the advance, rising faster in percentage terms than oil due to the explosion Monday at Alon USA's Big Spring, Texas, refinery, which could be shuttered for two months.

"The refinery fire in Texas is making people a little concerned," said Michael Lynch, president of Strategic Energy & Economic Research Inc. in Amherst, Mass.

Light, sweet crude for March delivery rose $4.51 to settle at a record $100.01 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange after earlier rising to $100.10, a new trading record. It was the first time since Jan. 3 that oil had been above $100. ...

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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby BigTex » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 18:10:34

One thing that is striking about what happened today is that there really wasn't a catalyst that you could point to. Refinery outages haven't bumped the price like that in the past.
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby joeltrout » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 18:14:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'O')ne thing that is striking about what happened today is that there really wasn't a catalyst that you could point to. Refinery outages haven't bumped the price like that in the past.


Thats the crazy part...it is the same old news we have heard the last 2 years

Tight Supply
Refinery Outages
Venezula
Violence in Nigeria

Now if OPEC does cut production oil should shoot up to $125 pretty easily.

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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby sdcoyote » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 18:16:40

It is going to be an amazing spring, I think.

If someone had told me this in 2000, I would have called them a lunatic.
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby BigTex » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 18:36:19

When markets move up like this without an apparent trigger you're in the middle of a BULL market.

Think about what's going to happen when there is a hurricane, or shooting starts in the ME, or a pipeline is blown up, or any number of other crazy things happen in:

Nigeria
SA
Iraq
Iran
Venezuela
Alaska
The Gulf of Mexico
Mexico
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby oddone » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 19:01:13

For ca. 95% of the world population, the oil price is the same or less compared to yesterday.

Watch the dollar fall...

It's like trading commodities in Weimar DM's.

Watch the gold price going the same way - USD 1000 tomorrow?
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby DantesPeak » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 19:03:06

$100.03 a few minutes ago.
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby Pops » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 19:04:18

What did our Some Guy say last week?
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby davep » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 19:06:34

Ooh, down to 99.86 on NYMEX. Pah, peak oil's for conspiracy nuts :-D
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby heroineworshipper » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 19:21:40

It was really the BluRay bonuses awarded to Pioneer management after HD DVD production was officially ended. That alone raised inflation over 30%.

> down to 99.86 on NYMEX. Pah, peak oil's for conspiracy nuts

$99.86 is deflationary! We need more rate cuts.
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby americandream » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 19:21:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'W')hen markets move up like this without an apparent trigger you're in the middle of a BULL market.

Think about what's going to happen when there is a hurricane, or shooting starts in the ME, or a pipeline is blown up, or any number of other crazy things happen in:

Nigeria
SA
Iraq
Iran
Venezuela
Alaska
The Gulf of Mexico
Mexico


There's mutterings in the market that Bernanke's rate cuts are enabling debt refinancing at lower cost and releasing the surplus funds for consumerism. The upshot of these rumblings is that the market is bullish about demand revival. In the midst of all of this China and India are posting good growth rates. Go figure.
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby turmoil » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 20:44:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')rude oil rose to a record $100.10 a barrel in New York on speculation OPEC will cut production when it meets next month. Gasoline and heating oil also reached records as investors poured money into energy markets.


Crude Oil Rises to a Record $100.10 on OPEC Production Outlook

Looks like there's a trigger after all...
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby pup55 » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 20:46:44

I find it hard to believe that a little refinery explosion caused this mess.

Many of the things listed above are much more likely.

Also, keep in mind that right now is when people are buying oil for their production in April.
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby Gandalf_the_White » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 21:11:08

The price of oil since this time last year is almost doubled. What more of a story do you need? It almost doubled in the previous 2 years. It's called exponential price pressure being caused most likely by a non-zero second derivative of demand minus supply. That is supply and demand are still diverging at an increasing rate. Look for more price increases coming soon to a long hot summer near you. Pray God there are no major hurricanes again this year in the Gulf, or pray your locking gas cap can withstand the onslaught as oil flirts with $130 and gas starts lusting for $6 sometime in the dog days. Even without added fear in the market I expect $110-$115 and $5 somewhere in the Midwest this year.
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby sjn » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 21:48:07

So does everybody still think my numbers in the price prediction thread are crazy?
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby DantesPeak » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 21:56:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sjn', 'S')o does everybody still think my numbers in the price prediction thread are crazy?


I think you are referring to this thread, because there is more than one price prediction thread:

http://www.peakoil.com/post574006.html#574006

Good call on the low price, since I think most likely we've seen the lows for the year already.

However I don't think hyperinflation will hit until 2010, but it will come as surprise to most all that wholesale price increases already working their way through the system will step up the rate of inflation significantly all around the world in 2008.
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby sicophiliac » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 22:27:21

Well there goes all the tax rebates from that "stimulus package"... money will be spent on gas once gas prices adjust to match crude oil.
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby Fiddlerdave » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 01:29:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gandalf_the_White', 'T')he price of oil since this time last year is almost doubled. What more of a story do you need? It almost doubled in the previous 2 years. It's called exponential price pressure being caused most likely by a non-zero second derivative of demand minus supply. That is supply and demand are still diverging at an increasing rate. Look for more price increases coming soon to a long hot summer near you. Pray God there are no major hurricanes again this year in the Gulf, or pray your locking gas cap can withstand the onslaught as oil flirts with $130 and gas starts lusting for $6 sometime in the dog days. Even without added fear in the market I expect $110-$115 and $5 somewhere in the Midwest this year.
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby Fiddlerdave » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 01:30:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gandalf_the_White', 'T')he price of oil since this time last year is almost doubled. What more of a story do you need? It almost doubled in the previous 2 years. It's called exponential price pressure being caused most likely by a non-zero second derivative of demand minus supply. That is supply and demand are still diverging at an increasing rate. Look for more price increases coming soon to a long hot summer near you. Pray God there are no major hurricanes again this year in the Gulf, or pray your locking gas cap can withstand the onslaught as oil flirts with $130 and gas starts lusting for $6 sometime in the dog days. Even without added fear in the market I expect $110-$115 and $5 somewhere in the Midwest this year.
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Re: Oil closes above $100 for the first time

Unread postby What2DO » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 03:51:09

If oil prices were adjusted to inflation what should a barrel of oil be going for ?
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