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Dept Of Homeland Security Endgame

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Fri 21 Dec 2007, 02:42:04

Here's the URL, good reading here ...

http://justanothercoverup.com/?p=356

Not sure what to make of it, if it's true, YIKES!

It will get more readers here than rotting 3 screens in on Reddit lol.
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Re: Dept Of Homeland Security Endgame

Unread postby psyop101 » Fri 21 Dec 2007, 03:05:13

Heh, the camps have been around for awhile but they are all now fully staffed and ready to go. One of the largest is in Washington State - rumored to be capable of housing 100,000 or so and just happens to be in my backyard. I am thinking about checking it out, if I do and don't come back well I guess y'all know its for real :lol:

The legislation and legality of it all is ready to go under the guise of "Executive Orders"
http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/fema.htm

They are all pretty creepy but this one is the kicker!

EO 11051
Specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
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Re: Dept Of Homeland Security Endgame

Unread postby kadoomsoon » Fri 21 Dec 2007, 03:06:55

This last paragraph is interesting.

This is information the government doesn’t want to be widely read or become public knowledge, and their propaganda arm is working hard to kill it - and we know they have infiltrated social networking sites from recent articles and they were busted by the “Digg Community.”


So, There is a propaganda arm, scarlet.

Eh, nothing you can do about it, y'all will go to summer camp, so what?

Peak oil is going to take them all out at the last moment and they don't know it yet.
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Re: Dept Of Homeland Security Endgame

Unread postby idomar » Fri 21 Dec 2007, 12:06:58

Hmmm........let me get this straight, 'they' want to take all of the 'illegals' 'enemies of the state' and anyone else that 'they' decide does not fit with 'their' plan and put them in a camp.

What do these unsavouries do for a living, lets see?

farm work?
manual labour?
low paid unskilled jobs?

basically all of the crappy jobs that no one else wants to do!

'They' want to take these people out of the economy and put them in a camp and expect everyone that is left to 1. pay for them to be incarcerated by paying tax 2. fill their vacant jobs

Anyone else see a dislocation in the logic here?

I cannot see how this could work at any level, do you want to give up a job in a office to work in a field or factory only to have the fruits of your labour go to a camp in Alaska to feed the people that could be doing the job that you are doing, that you don't want to do anyway.

Plus, how many of the 'rounded up' are going to go quietly and how many of the 'remnants' are going to go quietly to their new job?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')GENEVA (Reuters) - The United States has 90 guns for every 100 citizens, making it the most heavily armed society in the world


I would like to see 'them' try and enforce this!
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Re: Dept Of Homeland Security Endgame

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Fri 21 Dec 2007, 14:47:27

Idomar you underestimate the sheer craziness of the US.

Logic like yours sure did not stop the USSR. Hell they starved MILLIONS, arguably killed more than Hitler did, to achieve their aims.

Yes, the plentiful guns in the US are a ray of hope, most people can't shoot worth a damn though - Please, out there, if you possibly can, get training. Shoot in NRA matches, train in "combat" pistol and rifle, do varmint shooting, metallic silhouette, you need to develop the "one shot one kill" mentality and the skills to back it up.
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Re: Dept Of Homeland Security Endgame

Unread postby Justanothercoverup » Fri 21 Dec 2007, 17:05:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'I')domar you underestimate the sheer craziness of the US.

Logic like yours sure did not stop the USSR. Hell they starved MILLIONS, arguably killed more than Hitler did, to achieve their aims.

Yes, the plentiful guns in the US are a ray of hope, most people can't shoot worth a damn though - Please, out there, if you possibly can, get training. Shoot in NRA matches, train in "combat" pistol and rifle, do varmint shooting, metallic silhouette, you need to develop the "one shot one kill" mentality and the skills to back it up.


The way "Operation Falcon" is run is that they come in the very early hours of the morning while everyone's sleeping. They have used the exercise everywhere getting it ready except for the northwest - and that's due soon unless it's canceled because of the publicity. They now have the capacity to round-up hundreds of thousands on a nationwide basis while most of us are still asleep - only to awaken to most of the Blogs remaining silent.

This is a matter of great concern, and while there are still too many unanswered questions, it's obvious that something big is being planned - and if anyone thinks that Bush and Cheney will allow themselves to be prosecuted - well, I think their pat and present behavior belies that assumption.

Yes, I'm the one that posted this issue - but its stepping-stone is S 1959. Here's where you can find the information on that Bill.

There’s A Press Blackout on S 1959, the Thought Crime Prevention Bill; Why? http://justanothercoverup.com/?p=343

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Re: Dept Of Homeland Security Endgame

Unread postby mmasters » Fri 21 Dec 2007, 18:31:16

I think they are likely destined to be reprogramming camps for those who resist the NWO
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Re: Dept Of Homeland Security Endgame

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Fri 21 Dec 2007, 18:59:49

this is what the USSR and Red China did, camps were for reprogramming those guilty of thoughtcrime, and they would come pick people up early in the morning when most were asleep.
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Re: Dept Of Homeland Security Endgame

Unread postby Justanothercoverup » Fri 21 Dec 2007, 19:18:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'I') think they are likely destined to be reprogramming camps for those who resist the NWO


We know the one in Alaska is supposed to be capable of handling "mental health issues" -and for that many people, it has to be something such as you described.

I do believe that those of us who have been vocal opponents of Bush and Cheney will not be so lucky... This President has demonstrated that he has a mean-streak a mile wide not too well hidden behind that constant smirk; Cheney is a cold-hearted $%^()&&*^ - and who knows what he has in store for us. He is still likely to be the guiding voice behind Halliburton and KBR, and I'm guessing that Blackwater will be up to their necks in attempting to enforce their plan of "A New Amerika."

Please, anyone that's really concerned about the way our government and country is headed, please go to my site, or any site you choose and read-up on Senate Bill S 1959. It is the most egregious assault against the constitution and the Bill of Rights since this country was incepted - and the ramifications if it passes the Senate will be a blow to every American that cherishes liberty and free speech. There's a link to that Bill in a previous post I made.

I used to work undercover for the government more than 20 years ago; I'm aware of their deceit, law-breaking, and they possess surveillance tools that I was aware of 20 years ago that I still won't talk about. (I'm not about to educate criminals that may read what I write. Those that work deep undercover are constantly risking their lives, and there are instances where they have to be used and able to complete operations that do help to eliminate serious drug dealers and delve into organized crime in ways that would make the hair on the back of your neck stand-up... )

If you follow the links on S 1959, you will find we raised so much heck on the Issue that the House of Representatives made a clarifying statement on it, although it was double-speak, but there is still a press blackout on the Bill and no MSM outlet will publish anything related to the Bill. That alone should alert people how serious this matter is. The survival of our nation is at stake, and lately, the power of the people on the Internet is becoming a political factor that cannot be ignored- and the more of us that join-in and participate - the more powerful we become.

We have to remember it's us, the average Joe's that make this country run, and without us, if we ever become organized enough, our voices will be able to move mountains, but we have to awaken as many as possible. I'm not a zealot or a fanatic, but am disabled and have had the time to research and read the news, here and abroad for almost four years. I'm a walking dictionary of almost every aspect of what I study - and what I post is carefully checked-out to make sure it isn't just "another conspiracy theory."

I have questions, I think we all do about 911 - but avoid the issue because I am busy working on those that directly threaten our existence as a free nation. If you look deep into S 1959, and read what the constitutional scholars have said about it, and the different analysis' that are presented, it's easy to see that besides impeachment, this is an issue that has to be a priority, because if it passes the Senate, it could mean the end of free speech and other scenarios too horrible to mention.

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San Fran Chronicle Acknowledges ENDGAME By Homeland Security

Unread postby billg » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 00:32:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Rule by fear or rule by law?
Lewis Seiler,Dan Hamburg
Monday, February 4, 2008

excerpt:
Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of "an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."

Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States. The government has also contracted with several companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees. According to diplomat and author Peter Dale Scott, the KBR contract is part of a Homeland Security plan titled ENDGAME, which sets as its goal the removal of "all removable aliens" and "potential terrorists."

Fraud-busters such as Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Los Angeles, have complained about these contracts, saying that more taxpayer dollars should not go to taxpayer-gouging Halliburton. But the real question is: What kind of "new programs" require the construction and refurbishment of detention facilities in nearly every state of the union with the capacity to house perhaps millions of people?


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Re: San Fran Chronicle Acknowledges ENDGAME By Homeland Secu

Unread postby roccman » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 00:43:33

Does not matter.

When the sheep look up...
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Re: San Fran Chronicle Acknowledges ENDGAME By Homeland Secu

Unread postby threadbear » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 00:47:33

It just makes me want to cry. I just want to curl up in a fetal position and moan until it all stops. :(
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Re: San Fran Chronicle Acknowledges ENDGAME By Homeland Secu

Unread postby roccman » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 01:06:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'I')t just makes me want to cry. I just want to curl up in a fetal position and moan until it all stops. :(


Yeah

It gonna be bad...

real bad
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Re: San Fran Chronicle Acknowledges ENDGAME By Homeland Secu

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 01:31:10

Army, here I come. Better to be the hurder then the hurdee
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Re: San Fran Chronicle Acknowledges ENDGAME By Homeland Secu

Unread postby Schneider » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 01:52:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'A')rmy, here I come. Better to be the hurder then the hurdee


I'm canadian..so i may be wrong because i don't perfectly know how your system work..but isn't your future oath order you to protect the constitution before even following the orders of the president !?

If it is right..then as a soldier,it will be your DUTY to side with the constitution and protect the people..basically not following the unconstitionnal orders the president might throw at you! Even to use force again him if necessary..

Yet, you seem ready to do exactly the opposide and it is kinda disturbing for me :shock:!

I guess i'm too naive..

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Re: San Fran Chronicle Acknowledges ENDGAME By Homeland Secu

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 02:13:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schneider', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'A')rmy, here I come. Better to be the hurder then the hurdee


I'm canadian..so i may be wrong because i don't perfectly know how your system work..but isn't your future oath order you to protect the constitution before even following the orders of the president !?

If it is right..then as a soldier,it will be your DUTY to side with the constitution and protect the people..basically not following the unconstitionnal orders the president might throw at you! Even to use force again him if necessary..

Yet, you seem ready to do exactly the opposide and it is kinda disturbing for me :shock:!

I guess i'm too naive..

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Under a perfect system... maybe. But as a soldier it will be my responsibility to follow the orders of my direct in line commanding officer. Now if my commanding officer sides with the american people so will I. But if he tells me to hurd you into a truck... well try not to put up a big fight ;)


Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it. I don't see this scenario panning out. I believe that while we may have some bad elements within the government... I think we will be okay.
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Re: San Fran Chronicle Acknowledges ENDGAME By Homeland Secu

Unread postby peaker_2005 » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 02:21:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schneider', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'A')rmy, here I come. Better to be the hurder then the hurdee


I'm canadian..so i may be wrong because i don't perfectly know how your system work..but isn't your future oath order you to protect the constitution before even following the orders of the president !?

If it is right..then as a soldier,it will be your DUTY to side with the constitution and protect the people..basically not following the unconstitionnal orders the president might throw at you! Even to use force again him if necessary..

Yet, you seem ready to do exactly the opposide and it is kinda disturbing for me :shock:!

I guess i'm too naive..

Schneider


The Military has been brainwashed just as much as the American people.

They will obey even though they contradict the laws of the land.

Of course, few remember the words of their oath. And I imagine many serving representatives of the US military see it as a roundabout way of saying "the government".

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Re: San Fran Chronicle Acknowledges ENDGAME By Homeland Secu

Unread postby Schneider » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 02:41:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '
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Under a perfect system... maybe. But as a soldier it will be my responsibility to follow the orders of my direct in line commanding officer. Now if my commanding officer sides with the american people so will I. But if he tells me to hurd you into a truck... well try not to put up a big fight ;)


Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it. I don't see this scenario panning out. I believe that while we may have some bad elements within the government... I think we will be okay.


From my understanding, the oath doesn't give you a choice..you have to follow the orders only if they are constitutionnal..if not,then your duty is to kick the ass of the president out of the office..

As a individual..sorry,but i won't be herded like a animal into the slaughterhouse!

Since i'm canadian, your presence in a 300 km radius around me could only mean one thing : invasion of a foreign power on canadian soil :).

I REALLY DO HOPE IT WON'T HAPPEN AND I MEAN IT..

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peaker_2005', '
')I hope I'm wrong, for the world's sake, but I fear I am not, which saddens me.


I can understand since (from my canadian understanding) the oath that every single military, from soldier to general, must pledge really seem to be the very last line of defense again a federal dictatorship..

I do hope it won't happen and i'm not saying this just for you!
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Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 03:46:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schneider', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '
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Under a perfect system... maybe. But as a soldier it will be my responsibility to follow the orders of my direct in line commanding officer. Now if my commanding officer sides with the american people so will I. But if he tells me to hurd you into a truck... well try not to put up a big fight ;)


Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it. I don't see this scenario panning out. I believe that while we may have some bad elements within the government... I think we will be okay.


From my understanding, the oath doesn't give you a choice..you have to follow the orders only if they are constitutionnal..if not,then your duty is to kick the ass of the president out of the office..

As a individual..sorry,but i won't be herded like a animal into the slaughterhouse!

Since i'm canadian, your presence in a 300 km radius around me could only mean one thing : invasion of a foreign power on canadian soil :).

I REALLY DO HOPE IT WON'T HAPPEN AND I MEAN IT..

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peaker_2005', '
')I hope I'm wrong, for the world's sake, but I fear I am not, which saddens me.


I can understand since (from my canadian understanding) the oath that every single military, from soldier to general, must pledge really seem to be the very last line of defense again a federal dictatorship..

I do hope it won't happen and i'm not saying this just for you!


And aliens are guarenteed what rights under the constitution? And if that constitution is to be protected from all enemies, foreign and domestic?

The point is not what I think is a good idea or not but that most railing about what is or is not constitutional comes from those who have never read the document.

And if there is a decision/declaration that we are under "invasion" or experiencing "rebellion" then pretty much all bets are off until the invasion or rebellion is squashed.

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Re: San Fran Chronicle Acknowledges ENDGAME By Homeland Secu

Unread postby DrBang » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 04:31:54

Oh Shit!

(inevitable though) 8O

I plan to be very far away. In a place where its just not worth it to pursue me and mine.

I am thankful I live in Australia. We may be about to got 10 rounds with climate change and be horribly dependant on truck transportation, but we have nothing like this bullshit politically or military. WTSHTF the population will become the military.

If anyone has info that overturns the above, pls tell me quick.

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