[PenultimateManStanding]

A German film dealing with the nightmare of the Stasi Secret Police. The Nazis only had a decade or so to rule by terror. The Communists ruled for nearly half a century. A very poignant movie. The thing that worries me the most is that it's coming to a theater near you and me. This seemed to me like a movie to try and deal with some very unpleasant things, a German attempt to heal. But with what's coming, I fear no healing will be possible.

[Nicholai]

Das Lieben Der Anderen
I watched it in German with my german friends a few months ago. Great film, sad ending. I really enjoyed it! The building where the man starts to go through files at the end to find out about German spy techniques is a real building and was actually used for that very purpose. My friend Wolfgang has a few friends in Germany who had found files on themselves after the wall came down.

[PenultimateManStanding]

Yeah, it's a good movie. I didn't regard the ending as being particularly sad though. The writer dedicates his novel to a former Stasi agent who had a crisis of confidence in the police state. Seems to me like a nice Hollywood ending, compared to what's coming. Btw, I had a nice conversation with my brother who I hadn't spoken with since the fires in October. We set up a meeting with him and his wife and my kids and I. It was fun talking with him and then he mentioned The History Channel. I said, oh by the way, they had a recent special on the oil fiasco, but I don't suppose you want to talk about that. Sure enough he said no. He's not going to talk about that until it bites him on the ass, if ever.

[WildRose]

I had a conversation along those lines with an uncle of mine a couple of months ago. He is fairly wealthy and thinks the market can fix anything. Anyway, our talk got a little heated and I didn't like the tone I took with my uncle at one point. I have hereby resolved to not do that again; I really regret it. A couple of days before that he had taken me out for lunch and we had such a nice visit. From now on, I'll exchange information with people but not get into a big debate about it. Live and learn.

By the way, Happy Thanksgiving to you.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', 'L')ive and learn.

[Alcassin]

We have an old joke about this.

How many Stasi agents are in East German in four-member family?
Five, you always have to include their dog.

[yull]

The Stasi are on the rise here in the UK, if not already here. We are the world's foremost police state.