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WHY HR 1955 WAS RAMMED THROUGH UNDER COVER OF FIRE

Unread postby roccman » Sat 17 Nov 2007, 21:25:56

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd318.htm

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ast week while the horrific fires were burning up Southern California and every major news network, including cable were providing non-stop coverage, a very dangerous bill to liberty and freedom was passed by 404 members of the U.S. House of Representatives. Called the 'Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007', this bill is perfectly summed up here:

"First let's take a look at the definitions of violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism as defined in Section 899A of the bill. The definition of violent radicalization uses vague language to define this term of promoting any belief system that the government considers to be an extremist agenda. Since the bill doesn't specifically define what an extremist belief system is, it is entirely up to the interpretation of the government. Considering how much the government has done to destroy the Constitution they could even define Ron Paul supporters as promoting an extremist belief system. Literally, the government according to this definition can define whatever they want as an extremist belief system. Essentially they have defined violent radicalization as thought crime."
"There must be a bogeyman; there always is, and it cannot be something as esoteric as "resource depletion." You can't go to war with that." Emersonbiggins
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Re: WHY HR 1955 WAS RAMMED THROUGH UNDER COVER OF FIRE

Unread postby Kingcoal » Sat 17 Nov 2007, 22:42:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')on't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. Every concept that can ever be needed, will be expressed by exactly one word, with its meaning rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and forgotten. Already, in the Eleventh Edition, we're not far from that point. But the process will still be continuing long after you and I are dead. Every year fewer and fewer words, and the range of consciousness always a little smaller. Even now, of course, there's no reason or excuse for committing thoughtcrime. It's merely a question of self-discipline, reality-control. But in the end there won't be any need even for that. The Revolution will be complete when the language is perfect. Newspeak is Ingsoc and Ingsoc is Newspeak,' he added with a sort of mystical satisfaction. 'Has it ever occurred to you, Winston, that by the year 2050, at the very latest, not a single human being will be alive who could understand such a conversation as we are having now?


Excerpt from 1984, Part 1, Chapter 5, by the great foreseer, George Orwell
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Re: WHY HR 1955 WAS RAMMED THROUGH UNDER COVER OF FIRE

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Sat 17 Nov 2007, 22:47:38

Why do you think they started the fire?
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Re: WHY HR 1955 WAS RAMMED THROUGH UNDER COVER OF FIRE

Unread postby seldom_seen » Sat 17 Nov 2007, 23:08:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Revolution will be complete when the language is perfect.

Excerpt from 1984, Part 1, Chapter 5, by the great foreseer, George Orwell

That gives me the willies. Orwell had his ear to the ground.
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Re: WHY HR 1955 WAS RAMMED THROUGH UNDER COVER OF FIRE

Unread postby peaker_2005 » Sun 18 Nov 2007, 08:29:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Revolution will be complete when the language is perfect.

Excerpt from 1984, Part 1, Chapter 5, by the great foreseer, George Orwell

That gives me the willies. Orwell had his ear to the ground.


Have you read the book? If not, it's posted online somewhere. It's worth the time. Gave me the willies too. I could link so many things to our current world it's not funny.
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Re: WHY HR 1955 WAS RAMMED THROUGH UNDER COVER OF FIRE

Unread postby kpeavey » Sun 18 Nov 2007, 09:09:44

For the free thinking individuals among us, this legislation is double-plus-ungood
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Re: WHY HR 1955 WAS RAMMED THROUGH UNDER COVER OF FIRE

Unread postby DrBang » Sun 18 Nov 2007, 19:45:42

kpeavey

very good! I read this book when I was 13. At the time I thought it really bizarre and how far removed it was from 'real' life. Now?

oh shit
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