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Idea for electricity

Unread postby paimei01 » Thu 08 Nov 2007, 21:49:20

Take some heavy stuff, lift it up with a system of pulleys, then when it descends it generates electricity.
One massive object for each neighborhood or block of flats. With many people lifting it up I think it will be easy to lift. People could have a system in their own homes - when they exercise the heavy object goes up
That should make enough electricity for light and communication.
Let's say it would be a 10 ton object at 30 meters , I say 100 people could bring it up to 30 meters in one day. 100 kg for a person to lift at 30 meters in one day it's not much. Anybody knows how to calculate how much energy it would produce ?
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Re: Idea for electricity

Unread postby Niagara » Thu 08 Nov 2007, 22:14:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', 'A')nybody knows how to calculate how much energy it would produce ?


Yes, energy = work = force*distance

100kg/person * 30 metres
lifting 100 kg requires a force of roughly 1000 Newtons (980 actually)

so that's 30,000Nm =30,000 Joules

a Joule is a watt-second so that's 30,000 watt-seconds

How much energy is that? It would illuminate a 100watt light bulb for 5 minutes.

Hardly worth it for the complex apparatus you describe. It might be more practical to simply convert an exercise bike into a generator. Then you could power a computer or TV while exercising. That's not a bad idea and gen-bikes do exist. I think there's a thread for that.

Paimei, here's your homework assignment:
Q1) Calculate how many people tugging on ropes for an hour equals the energy in a barrel of oil?

Q2) What would you rather pay for: those folks tugging the ropes for minimum wage, or $100 for the barrel of oil?
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Re: Idea for electricity

Unread postby paimei01 » Thu 08 Nov 2007, 22:32:23

If 1 person lifts 100kg at 30 meters in 10 minutes, it means 600 kg at 30 meters in 1 hour.
600 kg=180000 Nm = 180000 Joules for 1 person for 1 hour

1 barrel of oil = 6117863200 Joules
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_of_oil_equivalent

33988 persons for 1 hour ? Is this correct ?

How did you calculate that 30000 watt second will illuminate a 100 watt light bulb for 5 minutes ? What if we use 18watt efficient lights ?
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Re: Idea for electricity

Unread postby Opies » Fri 09 Nov 2007, 01:09:32

organic carbon + oxygen + human -> chemical energy
chemical energy -> human mechanical energy -> non-human mechanical energy -> electricity

doesn't seem very efficient to me >< either way, the bicycle idea works and works quite well and easily. also... small scale wind power isn't hard either.
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Re: Idea for electricity

Unread postby frankthetank » Fri 09 Nov 2007, 02:42:41

Turn off light=no electricity!

Hey...its where we are headed!
lawns should be outlawed.
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