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MRSA: 2nd Confirmed Case - Seattle

Unread postby roccman » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 09:47:13

"There must be a bogeyman; there always is, and it cannot be something as esoteric as "resource depletion." You can't go to war with that." Emersonbiggins
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Re: MRSA: 2nd Confirmed Case - Seattle

Unread postby roccman » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 11:06:07

Just got a note from a friend...it is in Florida as well.
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Re: MRSA: 2nd Confirmed Case - Seattle

Unread postby Eli » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 11:15:44

MRSA is every where.

Someone needs to do a topic on Peak Antibiotics. This is what keeps infectious disease doctors up at night. Scrape your leg, die from MRSA.
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Re: MRSA: 2nd Confirmed Case - Seattle

Unread postby roccman » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 11:17:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'M')RSA is every where.

Someone needs to do a topic on Peak Antibiotics. This is what keeps infectious disease doctors up at night. Scrape your leg, die from MRSA.


Great - I will go back to sleep now.

BTW - I scraped my leg two weeks ago and did not get MRSA.
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Re: MRSA: 2nd Confirmed Case - Seattle

Unread postby kadoomsoon » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 11:27:09

PEople, stop watching your damned TV.
CONFIRMED CAWSE? what a load of propaganda. Inn your emergency room today they will have a dozen cases. go to any big city. The damned news makes it sound like it is rare. turn off that trash and wake up.

the Gov. (clinton) recently passed a law called HIPPA that does not allow the medical people to share any important information and for the last two years as MRSA skyrocketed no one would talk and they still won't this lawwas passed to prevent people form letting everyone know how bad this is already. No one is talking.

In CLINTONS day we were worried about a few cases of MRSA. Now it is like everyone has it already. Confimred case. LOL that is so funny.

MRSA is everywhere it is NOW THE MOST COMMON COMMUNITY INFECTION showing up in some emergency rooms already, mostly the big city ones. Small community ER's just have a low percentage still.. THis is old news.


there are soon comming V-mrsa and CA-mrsa and (dread) VCA-mrsa, if that begins we are in trouble.
Just live right, wash hands, and move to the country. wthis will decrease your risk. Remember, the clothes people try on in wally land and put on the rack now have their mrsa, so does the doorknobs and the burger wrappers, etc.

We never eat out any more, wouldn't be cought dead in a public restaurant. We shop at the vbery smallest off the road stores and stay away from malls. This will decrease exposure. Plus, we refuse to suport walrus land and china plastic junk centers.
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Re: MRSA: 2nd Confirmed Case - Seattle

Unread postby roccman » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 11:31:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kadoomsoon', '
')Just live right, wash hands, and move to the country. wthis will decrease your risk. Remember, the clothes people try on in wally land and put on the rack now have their mrsa, so does the doorknobs and the burger wrappers, etc.


In a Post PO world ...somehow I think getting soap to wash hands with is going to be a trick...

I am glad that this is a non-issue - NOW.

Let's check back in a few years and see how all this is going.
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Re: MRSA: 2nd Confirmed Case - Seattle

Unread postby kadoomsoon » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 11:50:57

Well, you are right, it is a non issue. Can't stop it now. It is exponential.

When people first showed up with in 5 years ago they would hospitalize them in reverse isolation rooms and hospitalize for 2 weeks until it was cleared. . . When my friend had to enter the room she had to completely gown up and wear a mask every time she went in. Now they send everyone home

sirius.

The highest incidence are the illegals (Texas and Arizona is hard hit) who can't shower and bath, they track it everywhere. The walk around with open weeping sores and they dont bother to dress them. and the kids go to school like that... pretty nasty, its best to just not think about it, wash your hands when you go out and come back and hope for the best.

Smallpox girl, am I right?
is anything incorrect here?

LOL. You know it, girl. Don't say anything, watch out for HIPPA.
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Re: MRSA: 2nd Confirmed Case - Seattle

Unread postby kadoomsoon » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 12:10:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', ' ')
I stay away from medical facilities as much as possible...

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That is a very good idea, and I would not sit on the furniture.

They let children under 18 in all hospitals now which is a real problem for spreading of infection, also, just as an afterthought,

When the viral pandemic hits please do not go to the hospital. That is where sick people are.
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Re: MRSA: 2nd Confirmed Case - Seattle

Unread postby yull » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 13:10:41

MRSA is rampant in hospitals here in the UK and has been for many years. Most people know someone who or knowssomeone who knows someone who got infected by MRSA in hospital, mainly old people. My aunt had it for example, but she recovered.
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Re: MRSA: 2nd Confirmed Case - Seattle

Unread postby WatchfulEye » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 15:06:53

MRSA is endemic in most parts of the western world: USA, Europe, Australasia, etc.

In the UK, it's rampant in hospitals - but these days, it's increasingly common in the general population. It's estimated that as many as 40% of all hospital MRSA infections weren't actually hospital acquired, but were actually brought in when the patient attended, and only became apparent because of their weakened state.

The other problem is that MRSA is a big problem for GPs - it's very difficult to treat without injectable antibiotics, and this means that people with MRSA infections may need admission to hospital because community treatments may not be optimal.

One of the problems is that Staphylococcus aureus is a particularly nasty bug, but a prevalent one (everybody on earth carries it somewhere on their body), but more importantly seems to be able to evolve relatively rapidly to gain resistance to antibiotics. Back in the 1950s when penicillin was brand new, it had 100% effectiveness against S. aureus. However, just 10 years later, penicillin was worthless for S. aureus - virtually all S. aureus was resistant to penicillin, instead a variant of penicillin, methicillin, was required.

Methicillin and its derivatives, have been the mainstay of treatment for S. aureus for 40 years. But in the last 10-15 years, we've seen methicillin resistant S. aureus (MRSA) beginning to appear, even despite continually updated advise to physicians on antibiotic use.

The problem is that there are relatively few antibiotics that act on MRSA - and resistance to those is now starting to be seen. Nowhere near as common as MRSA, but a significant problem in specialist hospitals where patients have severely weakened immune systems (e.g. blood disorders units).

However, MRSA is not the only troublesome resistant infection. PRSP (penicillin resistant Streptococcus pneumoniae) is increasingly common in the US and in some European countries (not the UK). E.g. it is endemic in Spain - this is thought to be because the population have general access to antibiotics over the counter at pharmacies, and consequently antibiotic usage in the Spanish population is several times higher than, for example, the UK. It is occasionally seen in the UK, usually in returning travellers, and is a huge problem as PRSP pneumonia is an absolute bear to treat.

Clostridium difficile infection is another classically, hospital acquired infection, that is on the rise. C. diff is a highly contagious infection causing profuse diarrhoea. C. diff is a ubiquitous organism, but normally it is kept in check by the bodies 'friendly bacteria'. Kill the friendly bacteria with an excessive dose of a powerful antibiotic (like the ones needed for MRSA or PRSP) and suddenly, the body is a sitting duck for C. diff - because it is not at all responsive to antibiotics for the above organisms. As it's due to loss of friendly bacteria, it's the powerful 'best' antibiotics that really let it rip - the number one culprit behind C. diff is Cipro - When you absolutely, positively want to wipe out all your natural defences, accept no substitutes.

It spreads like wildfire in hospitals and care homes too. It's airborne as well as spread by direct contact - so if someone uses the toilet, microscopic droplets may be ejected during the flush. They land on the seat, dry, turn to dust and are then spread in the air. It's also impervious to alcohol, so scrupulous hygiene with hot soapy water, as well as strict isolation with negative pressure ventilation, and thorough disinfection of all surfaces with powerful disinfectants (not alcohol) is the only way to manage it in hospitals. Unfortunately, certainly in the UK, isolation rooms are few and far between, and many hospitals may not even have individual negative pressure ventilation systems for their isolation rooms.
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Re: MRSA: 2nd Confirmed Case - Seattle

Unread postby inculcated » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 15:24:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '
')In a Post PO world ...somehow I think getting soap to wash hands with is going to be a trick...


Next skill I have on list to take up is soap making....
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Re: MRSA: 2nd Confirmed Case - Seattle

Unread postby auscanman » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 15:45:16

I got an MRSA infection on my skin from my ex-girlfriend, who was a med student back in early 2005. Not a pleasant experience!

What made it worse is that the stupid hospitals in Canada, even after my 2nd trip to the Emergency Room to get an abscess lanced, wouldn't prescribe the antibiotic my ex said was needed. Ended up having to fill the needed prescription for it down in the US!

Will be interesting if these newest strains are resistant to even the most potent antibiotics... MRSA could be a real killer in a harsh, less cleanly future. Eventually an MRSA infection on your skin will get into your body, and worst of all your lungs, where it can be fatal. Lower the standard of hygiene and add in higher rates of prevalence, and you have a recipe for an MRSA epidemic.
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Re: MRSA: 2nd Confirmed Case - Seattle

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 17:38:10

Once many antibiotics on offer fail, one can always try that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggot_therapy
NB. I am determined to try it on myself (just out of curiosity), should adequate "opportunity" arise.
Some moderate, non healing wound would be best for that experiment albeit I never have experienced such a thing...
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Re: MRSA: 2nd Confirmed Case - Seattle

Unread postby Baldwin » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 19:25:35

Garlic and Colloidal silver are like nuclear bombs if you suffer from MRSA.

Look into it. If Big pharma's techniques are useless, the disease is a enwsworthy crisis. [Even if the disease may be fought with cheap, easily available remedies].
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