[EROEI]

Hi all,

Last Friday I went to watch M$FT Porn Ultimate 2007, Opps I means Universal AKA GE's Hollywood aka DRM movie (US propaganda machine) the Bourne Ultimatum.

In the first quarter of the movie we see a reporter talk over the cell phone with his boss and his conversation was automatically intercepted by Echelon like keyword filters (I think the keyword was 'Black Bryer' or something)

Langley then has him tagged as a target of interest and of course he is 'taken care of'.

My question is how realistic is such massive top down surveillance? Is every single email, forum post, cell phone conversation, video transmission, etcetc automatically soaked and captured into NSA blackbox and AI algorithms automatically filter and sort all of it and then assigns human analysits to check potentially suspect items??

How is this possible? Does XP and Vista really have an Uncle Sam backdoor?

Okay so the question is how to get on their radar screens?



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[oswald622]

i didn't see anything about mena, arkansas.

[OilIsMastery]

Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Al Saud controls Motorola. This means that Al Qaeda monitors almost all of America's cellular communications.

[Niagara]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EROEI', 'O')kay so the question is how to get on their radar screens?
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[EROEI]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Niagara', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EROEI', 'O')kay so the question is how to get on their radar screens?
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[EROEI]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', 'P')lace your cell phone next to a cheap pair of internet speakers, like the little plastic plug in ones you get with your gateway. when your cell phone transmits you hear digital cirps through the speaker. Whne you are home just leave the speaker on and leave it next to those speakers, if you hear constant chirp chirp chirp whne you are not makeing a call they are listening.

Doubt they care anything about you you are harmless.
Aaron is the one they would monitor.
The other thing is that all cell phones in order to operate have to have a position lock Built in GPS, every tag or tickle has a position with it. All phones while transmitting have the phone number, owner of account and position SOTORED permanently
the can tell you your exact position last february at 2 PM on March 3 if they want.
this is permanent recod, and then they can go back and hear your conversation that you were talking about if you were watched. They know your bank accountas and ballances and they can track your most visited locations over the last year, so it would be easy to watch you drive and if you are headed to a favorite location, to actually get there before you and wait for you and have a lady "drop her cigarette" and ask for a light.

SPies will get fatter now.

Cell phone tech is the key to ultimate location.

In Austia during the war the mayor had a list of people that were supposed to be in their town. if yo9u wanted to move or spend the weekend you had to geta permit from the mayor of the town yo left and the mayor of the town you went to and tell them why you want to move. If it was ok with both , you could move or stay extended time. If one refused, you werent moving anywhere.

Also it was important to know where you were so you could be taxed. There was a percantage church tax (as there is today in some of the controlled countries) where you income was taken out of your pay and send directly to the church, everyone paid church tax everyone was enrolled in some government dchurch.

The Gendarms (sherriff) was told who to arrest by the local priest)
If you were unlawfully assembling or causing trouble.

The sherrifs and police worked for the church as some countries today.

The banks were owned by certain agents of them also.

This is going on today, only more discretely.

Soon it will all be back to that again, with the Cell phones they can now monitor you without permits it will be total very soon.

[EROEI]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', 'A')fter the big crash yes.
But there is a fake econo crash where everyone will have a phone ki nd of like 1929.

Many people now don't have a cell phone, They will have to ahve the ID. In fact you will probably have both.

The grid will be alive and well when the needed time comes.

[EROEI]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', 'Y')ou are starting to wake up. Getting warm.

In Quincy Wa, MSTUFT and Giggle and Yeehaw could be building the largest computer centers in the world with thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands Of servers in one building, to do "something"
Each server can run a sity the cize of seattle area.

[lawnchair]

How times have changed. I got myself on some lists in my youth. I listened to shortwave radio and wrote QSL requests to Radio Havana, Radio Moscow, Voice of Korea, etc. A letter of "I am an 8 year old American interested in your system of government" got great swag back. I still have my Fidel Castro baseball trading cards.

After a while, even my penpal letters from the Netherlands came back with "Opened for National Security purposes" rubber stamped on them. My school principal also told me that I was the only student who he ever got inquiries about by government agents. I always thought that was cool.

[I_Like_Plants]

This is a very fertile thread.

I'm glad I clicked on it.

Good posts Ferralgiraffe.

Now, on the cell phone beep detector, the chirps are basically, as far as I know, the phone just saying to the local cell, "I'm here". However, yes, put the phone next to a speeker and you should often be able to detect the chirps of info.

I say should because a lot of computer speakers are amplified, and have wires, audio and power, sticking out. Amplification and antenna are 2 of the 3 ingrediants you need to make a radio reciever. The third is detection, and often enough there's a crappy contact that provides that - works like a point-contact diode.

If you actually add a point contact diode, you can make a cell fone snoop detector lol.

I should work on this and share how I did it.

[Emma]

i imagine they have tick boxes (emails, visited sites, search engines, material downloaded..) and when someone reach a certain point he gets monitored

[EROEI]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'T')his is a very fertile thread.

I'm glad I clicked on it.

Good posts Ferralgiraffe.

Now, on the cell phone beep detector, the chirps are basically, as far as I know, the phone just saying to the local cell, "I'm here". However, yes, put the phone next to a speeker and you should often be able to detect the chirps of info.

I say should because a lot of computer speakers are amplified, and have wires, audio and power, sticking out. Amplification and antenna are 2 of the 3 ingrediants you need to make a radio reciever. The third is detection, and often enough there's a crappy contact that provides that - works like a point-contact diode.

If you actually add a point contact diode, you can make a cell fone snoop detector lol.

I should work on this and share how I did it.

[TommyJefferson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lawnchair', 'I') listened to shortwave radio and wrote QSL requests to Radio Havana, Radio Moscow, Voice of Korea, etc. A letter of "I am an 8 year old American interested in your system of government" got great swag back. I still have my Fidel Castro baseball trading cards.