[I_Like_Plants]

The USA is no longer the nice Leave-it-to-Beaver world, no longer a tech leader, no longer making things, why aren't we colonizing Mars?

Obviously, it's the flood of non-Whites with their low IQs, it's the Blacks and their crime, the subhuman-ish Hispanics and Indians, stupid buggers only ever knew how to scalp decent folks and live in hovels......

<h2>Bullshit!</h2>

I am ashamed to admit I believed this - many in the US believe this, many more than will come out and admit it. There's a plethora of literature advocating this point of view, more now with the internet, in fact one of the oldest sites on the Web is Stormfront. This view seems to match the facts, very well, and if you're skeptical, there are always writers willing to take you through "the racial tour" of Rome and ancient Egypt, and even ancient South America, to show you how it's those damn darkies. Superior white people erecting an Empire, then because they would not protect the purity of their blood, that empire becoming flooded with nonwhites and the whole thing crumbling.

<h2>Again, bullshit!</h2>

It SEEMS so true if you don't have more facts, If you don't understand the huge torrent of energy we run our present empire on, and the smaller though significant torrents earlier empires were run on. It helps to understand the tool of Empire builders and capitalists both, divide-and-conquer.

Jobs are leaving the Empire, Affirmative Action does indeed deprive people like me of jobs, but only when there are only TWO DAMN JOBS to fight over - it would make no difference at all if there were 20, or 200. As for intelligence, there's still no real proof of this or that race having more real-world achievement-measured intelligence, that can't be accounted for by culture and certain groups being assigned lower places in our society. The result is tall, beautiful, white people working as tellers in banks who don't have a whole lot upstairs, and short, squat, dark, ugly, and highly intelligent Mexicans running a landscaping crew - which one's going to be more useful after the Collapse?

Empires expand. And in expansion, both engulf other ethnic areas, and also bring in other races for cheap labor - can't have wages going too high, and can't have the Empire's native working-class getting too uppity!

As for keeping the blood pure, I submit exhibit A: Inbred white hicks - no other groups has kept the blood so pure since the sister-marrying Egyptian royals. I worked for an animal hospital once, and there was a craze for Doberman Pinschers. However, dogs had to be quarentined for 6 weeks before entering the state (Hawaii) so, there was a lot of local breeding from a limited genetic pool. The result was skinny, odd-looking, and FLAKY dogs, never sure if they were going to bark or bite, sketchy just like your local trailer-park residents. So much for the purity of the blood.....

Nope the race theories just don't hold up. It's all explained much better by the fact that our energy source is drying up, and in terms of the policies and tactics used by a rapacious ruling class that demands more and more.

[pea-jay]

Hey, a non racial supremecist rant for a change. Refreshing.

Still there are enough idiots things could well break down along racial-ethnic lines.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he result is tall, beautiful, white people working as tellers in banks who don't have a whole lot upstairs, and short, squat, dark, ugly, and highly intelligent Mexicans running a landscaping crew - which one's going to be more useful after the Collapse?

[gg3]

Which is the more sturdy, resilient, and adaptive of two animals:

The purebred?

Or the mongrel?

Almost always it's the mongrel.

Case closed.

And yeah, good to hear folks here repudiating racial supremacy theories.

[undertaker]

Your asking the wrong questions. The question is "separation and diversity, or miscegenation and homogenization."

Inter-racial marriage will lead to the extinction of the European racial type. That's why I'm opposed to it. I don't care if we are more or less intelligent or moral than other races; I care about looks, about beauty. I find the European racial type to be the most beautiful looking, and I get depressed when I have to spend my day seeing other racial types.

Every other race has the same hair and eye coloring -- brown hair and brown eyes as far as the eye can see. It is only the European racial type that diverges from this -- sure we can have brown hair and brown eyes, or blond hair and blue eyes, or red hair and green eyes.

These are recessive genes, and easily destroyed by mixing with the dominant genes of the "people of color."

This is why I am in favor of racial separation -- the "endangered species" argument. Whites ought to preserve ourselves simply because we are something unique and different from the rest of the world -- the same reason we want to protect the spotted owl in the forests of the Pacific Northwest.

[Cynus]

I think that the main problem preventing integration is history, not race. Unfortunately, in your race, you wear your history on your sleeve, as it were. "Whites" from many countries can come to the US and they soon forget their history. Soon they're proud of how "we" beat the British, the nazis, and the commies, even if they're in fact British, German, or Russian and it was their ancestors that "we" beat. Other races can't forget their history and join in that "we" in that way because it's written in their bodies. For example, when the British celebrate their great naval history, asian and middle-eastern immigrants know that that "our" does not include them, but white immigrants to England--after a generation or so--can drop their true background and and blend in with the rest of the "we." Whites living in non-white countries come to feel the same thing, that they can't drop their histiory/identity and become fully part of the culture. African-Americans can never drop their history the way European immigrants have been able to and see the country as a land of opportunity and freedom when the fact that "they" had no freedom and opportunity is always staring them in the face. This leads to the feeling of alienation that minorities express, and finds its way into different political beleifs, social problems, artistic expressions, etc.

[holmes]

While I tend to agree. HOWEVER we do not need to add more carcasses to the heap. Is that not passive genocide? Self induced suicide? Add more carnage to an already overwhelmed situation? That is what it is truly all about. There is not much more room for prisons. There is not much resources left to sustain this. This is going to be a major scene when we can not continue to sustain these dependents. These people have zero understadning of limits. They will blame. Blame and rant about how we are keeping their "stuff" from them. Hello! You make your own destiny you cretin! you see the more we bring in like this the more entropy occurs. We make it difficult for producers to immigrate here. We make it easy for consumers to. Thats all its about. has zero to do with race. the folks that see it as a race issue are a non scientific/rational/logical thinking group. They need to be deported along with all the rest that have zero scientific logical critical thinking skills. Thats 70% of the legal and illegal s out there. Thats nearly all of these "advocates". advocates need to be shot in the temple.

[I_Like_Plants]

This thread is working out well

Yes, there are racial-degradation theories that seem to explain the decline of empires. But, now that we know that empires collapse through overcomplexity, over-use of resources, etc., we know now it's not race. And I'd been wondering for a while myself, if some empire grows, sooner or later of course it will incorporate other ethnicities as it swallows up their lands. Co-incidence not proving causality and all that....

Our troublesome whites tend to be inbred mofos, since they were isolated up in the hills and you get towns with only 4 last names and all that. I wonder some of this same effect, because of isolation under slavery, coule explain erratic behavior among some US blacks? Mostly I think it's upbringing though, and the US class-based culture, as an offshoot of the British class-based culture, is probably the best in the world at brutalizing and demoralizing its lower class, making them both resigned to being on the bottom and training into them behavior patterns that will keep them there.

Whites are indeed a unique group. Whites are also the main engine, with coal and oil technology, of the overheating of the Earth which may well make having white skin a real liability. Pretty funny huh?

Yes we're going to have races and tribes for a long time. Remember the Europeans didn't need other races to engage in massive killing sprees, they had things like "The 100 Years' War" and European history is full of sieges and starvations and all that. So even if the US were utterly homogeneous, if population outgrew resources, we'd find some reason to start killing each other off.

[undertaker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'T')his thread is working out well

Remember the Europeans didn't need other races to engage in massive killing sprees, they had things like "The 100 Years' War" and European history is full of sieges and starvations and all that. So even if the US were utterly homogeneous, if population outgrew resources, we'd find some reason to start killing each other off.

[holmes]

there is more inbreeding in the cities by far. thats just logical... more people bingo! I would have more respect for urban people if they ALL lived by the new urbanism system. Suburbians are an abomination. They have no place in this world. What are they? Basically consumers. The primitive "hispanics" I see appearing on the streets is not a figment of my imagination. I am by far more advanced then these people I am seeing. Jst got back from lunch break and its all latino woman and babies upon babies. Dependent on the gubmint 100%. The prison out here is 78% illegals that make up the prison population out here. We are just seeing the extras and overbreeding and overbred now. The human race reached its zenith some time ago. It is not a strong gene pool anymore. A taker gene pool now. I just see a horrifying build up of dependent biomass that has zero critical thinking skills let alone any thinking skills. Purely instinctual and primitive. That is horribly cruel and short term thinking to promote the growth of these "people".

[I_Like_Plants]

More people in the cities doest not result from them breeding like rabbits, more people in the cities results from people moving into the cities from the farms etc.

Yes there are primitive Hispanics breeding like rabbits and dependent on Gov't. Also blacks, whites, and everyone else doing that too - the US pays 'em to breed and breed they will. More soldiers for the Reich or for economic growth or some damn thing - the US is much more like a 3rd world country than like a 1st world one with its attitudes toward birth control.

If you really prefer an all-white Hatfield vs McCoy world, what are you doing in California??? Move to West Verginia or someplace, and fight away - have fun! Hang out with people who make ghetto blacks seem classy, what's holding you back? Afraid one of those 30-30 "bees" flyin' around in Hickville might sting ya?

[lotrfan55345]

White people "extinct"?
What?
Constituting over 1/6 of the total world population... the farthest thing from being extinct.

[undertaker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lotrfan55345', 'W')hite people "extinct"?
What?
Constituting over 1/6 of the total world population... the farthest thing from being extinct.

[MacG]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('undertaker', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'T')his thread is working out well

Remember the Europeans didn't need other races to engage in massive killing sprees, they had things like "The 100 Years' War" and European history is full of sieges and starvations and all that. So even if the US were utterly homogeneous, if population outgrew resources, we'd find some reason to start killing each other off.

[Baldwin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MacG', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('undertaker', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'T')his thread is working out well

Remember the Europeans didn't need other races to engage in massive killing sprees, they had things like "The 100 Years' War" and European history is full of sieges and starvations and all that. So even if the US were utterly homogeneous, if population outgrew resources, we'd find some reason to start killing each other off.

[jboogy]

" There is more in-breeding in the cities by far ,...der, that's jus' logistical or whatever... more people , BINGO!" - dude , are you for real?more people means a more diversified gene pool to choose from , why inbreed when there's 80 chicks living within a 2 block radius that aren't related to you?As far as "brown" being racially inferior . I really don't care what others say , I'm 41 years old and I've seen all races , I grew up with some blacks in PA and there were good and bad , same as whites (for some reason though I've always seemed to get along with black people right off the bat?), I moved to Florida and saw a LOT of mexicans and cubans , same deal-good and bad, mexicans I saw were family oriented and hard working for the most part , the best friend I made and still have was a cuban dude I worked with named Jesus , literally would give you the shirt off his back.In rural GA. where I live now it's the same again! There's just as much po' white trailer trash as there is black. And you know what ? Alot of these people would be just like you and me if the manufacturing base hadn't been leaving this country in droves over the past 30 years, it's hard for a lot of people of limited intelligence to succeed without a decent paying job to support a family, not everyone has the innate ability to generate their own income and if your born into poverty in the city and your opportunities are limited from the get-go ,then who the f**k are you to judge?And undertaker , I ain't buying your endangered species crap! Your as racist as they come and for all the typical reasons I'm sure, please don't insult me by trying some thinly veiled " I just want to ensure I don't go extinct " bullsh*t. By the way Holmes , I hear their doing wonderful things with frontal lobotomies now, you should look into it you f**cking psycho.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jboogy', ' ')By the way Holmes , I hear their doing wonderful things with frontal lobotomies now, you should look into it you f**cking psycho.

[kam300en]

I personally believe peak oil will be the death blow to the post-20th century multiculturalism experiment. Europe, Australia, and New Zealand will expel (or worse) all non-whites, and America will do the same, if not in all areas, than in the majority white areas. When white people become poor, and they step out of their SUVs and their mcmansions and enter the real world, where groups of people must fight for their interests...and their interests alone...things will change overnight. The days of African immigrants arriving in Scandinavia and immediately being given apartments and government checks, and the next day going about gang raping beautiful blonde girls will also come to an end.

[holmes]

Blah blah blah most humans love to live piled on top of one another graciously conceding all freedom. Clean air? clean water? good soil? open space? Nahhh! Foget a bout it I want to live in a MEGA LA death pit. Some of us like cleanliness and order. But yeah so what I know plenty of different kinds of people. They are all gracious. Whats the big obssesion with the Hispanics? The culture they are bringing here sucks. They are lazy and not gracious. Your thinking of past generations. But I know most have no problem on this site due to their commie socialist obssession with having their door broke open and hords just coming into their home taking as they please. This is truly a self loathing, self hatred, passive genocidal culture we have here. Please rape me! Come take all! Ive been so horrible and bad! please rob me and take all I have! its the least I can do for you you poor gracious people.! Yes I know many gracious Hispanics. I bet you all live in a mega city. I have this feeling. Please One can not relate to me if they are city bred and raised. Your attitude is that its all just fine. Becuase Its so twisted and decayed in them cities. Ive noticed city humans are an entire different breed than us Earthiests.
No did not PMS. Broke up with my girlfriend saturday. Now Im kinda have a couple ladies eyeing me out now. Sweet!
That is a compliment. Contolled ethical phsycos will do well in a PO world. hee hee! We will have no problem blowing away the phsyco scene that the loathers ad greedy guts have helped create. Well maybe a quick thought.

[holmes]

Please the new hispanic immigrants can not be compared to our rich LEGAL hispanic population. Especially the cubans of Miami. That is a put down to the Hispanics that are here. In fact the illegals are canibalizing their own legal people. I never could figure out their racist screams. This country is made up of many different races. its about not kicking my door in to my home and helping yourslef. However I do know that men now have hanging paunch bellies and or are just women in a "man" body. They have no defense against a more primitive hoard. In fact they have no defense against thier wives. How in the hell are they supposed to defend a country. hahahahaha!

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('undertaker', 'Y')our asking the wrong questions. The question is "separation and diversity, or miscegenation and homogenization."

Inter-racial marriage will lead to the extinction of the European racial type. That's why I'm opposed to it. I don't care if we are more or less intelligent or moral than other races; I care about looks, about beauty. I find the European racial type to be the most beautiful looking, and I get depressed when I have to spend my day seeing other racial types.

Every other race has the same hair and eye coloring -- brown hair and brown eyes as far as the eye can see. It is only the European racial type that diverges from this -- sure we can have brown hair and brown eyes, or blond hair and blue eyes, or red hair and green eyes.

These are recessive genes, and easily destroyed by mixing with the dominant genes of the "people of color."

This is why I am in favor of racial separation -- the "endangered species" argument. Whites ought to preserve ourselves simply because we are something unique and different from the rest of the world -- the same reason we want to protect the spotted owl in the forests of the Pacific Northwest.