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What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

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General interest discussions, not necessarily related to depletion.

What shall we do?

Cherish them. They give us the opportunity to show comapssion.
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Insitutionalize them. Protect them from others, protect society from them.
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Enslave them. They must work to support the cost of keeping them alive.
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Abuse them. Clearly, God hates them - why shouldn't we, as well?
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Terminate them. It's the most cost effective solution.
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Other!
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Jack, you're a true sociopath.
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Total votes : 50

What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby Jack » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 01:50:17

I came across an interesting definition:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')n a side note, although "idiot" is a nonspecific insult today, not long ago it had a precise technical meaning. In the early years of IQ tests, an idiot was someone with an IQ of 0-25, an imbecile had an IQ of 26-50, and a moron had an IQ of 51-70.


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So, as Peak Oil hits, food (and other resources) will be less available. One must ask what we, as a society, should do with our more vulnerable members. For this particular poll, let us consider the mentally challenged. (See? I can write in politically correct terms!)

The question, then, is what you think should be done with idiots, morons, and imbeciles. Please use the above definition, in terms of IQ, in your determination - being annoying is not the same as being an idiot, imbecile, or moron.

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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby basil_hayden » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 02:06:09

I think cretin is the worst, thus the poll must be repaired to cast my vote.
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby Madpaddy » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 03:54:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o, as Peak Oil hits, food (and other resources) will be less available. One must ask what we, as a society, should do with our more vulnerable members. For this particular poll, let us consider the mentally challenged. (See? I can write in politically correct terms!)

The question, then, is what you think should be done with idiots, morons, and imbeciles. Please use the above definition, in terms of IQ, in your determination - being annoying is not the same as being an idiot, imbecile, or moron.


Jeez, Jack.

I thought it was obvious. Give them a service number and use them to clear minefields manually in the coming wars.
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby Ayame » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 04:57:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', ' ')One must ask what we, as a society, should do with our more vulnerable members.


I think post peak the decision will fall to their family once organised social security falls down the toilet. Some will probably be lucky and be looked after (if the family has the resources), others abandoned, others abused latest horrific abuse story of disabled girl. It will be the same for the elderly who have passed their usefulness.
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby MD » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 05:38:58

It will be back to what it was before cheap energy:

-nasty institutions

-basement rooms

-quiet "mercy" killings
Stop filling dumpsters, as much as you possibly can, and everything will get better.

Just think it through.
It's not hard to do.
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby MD » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 05:40:59

By the way, you are clearly a sociopath. Well done!
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby Jack » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 05:44:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'B')y the way, you are clearly a sociopath. Well done!


You flatter me. And I appreciate it! :-D
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby MD » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 05:49:01

What about the medically-created brain dead? You know...the children's medical centers that go to extraordinary effort to prop up brain injured infants (usually the swallow victims) only to create wheel-chair monsters that require unbelievable resource to keep alive?
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby Bas » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 05:53:38

Peak IQ :P
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby MD » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 05:54:29

And before you all jump me... I've lived through one of these recently... I was the first friend to get the call that morning "...pray for my son..."

It was almost four years ago and I must -Must- conclude that a pronouncement of death on that day would have relieved years of torment and suffering.
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby Ayame » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 07:41:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'W')hat about the medically-created brain dead? You know...the children's medical centers that go to extraordinary effort to prop up brain injured infants (usually the swallow victims) only to create wheel-chair monsters that require unbelievable resource to keep alive?


This will no longer be feasible. Also parents will have to get used to high infant mortality again as mass childhood innoculations go down the pan.
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby eastbay » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 07:57:20

As we all soon begin to dial back the hands of time, we shall find that the answers to this and other difficult questions lie in what was done before.

A quick peek back in time tells us that what was done in the not-too-distant past will take some getting used to.... but we will get used to it, and more... much more.
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby MD » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 09:07:00

That's really what downslope is all about . . . an excruciating series of difficult decisions that with each passing day include increasingly uncomfortable options.
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby TBroedsgaard » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 14:40:16

Who knows... maybe some who are handicapped in todays world because of low IQ will have an advantadge in the world of tomorrow?
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby TITAN » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 15:28:17

If they can build themselves a slave house, I'll let them live on my land and chop the firewood, do the gardening, tend the livestock etc...

Otherwise a .22 round won't be too much of a waste on them...
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby DesertBear2 » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 16:25:30

We should first ensure that never again will an imbecile or moron occupy the white house and have control of the US military and it's nuclear forces.
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby Jack » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 19:57:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'T')hat's really what downslope is all about . . . an excruciating series of difficult decisions that with each passing day include increasingly uncomfortable options.


Truly. Other such decisions will be what to do about the elderly - does one replace a hip? Install a pacemaker? Place them on a regimen of expensive drugs? Or does one "make them comfortable" until they die?

What about the physically able but expensive to treat?

The nasty little secret is that medical care is not infinitely available. So it must always be rationed by some mechanism - whether by price, in a totally self-pay system, or the State in a classic socialized medicine case.

The problem is...we're probably going to see socialized medicine. And as budgets get stretched, some anonymous bureaucrat somewhere will decide what the limits are. That will mean death for the un-affluent majority.

And my little poll here will be supplanted by a reality much more cruel than most care to contemplate.

Welcome to the future.
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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby kevincarter » Mon 12 Feb 2007, 12:16:40

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Re: What is to be done with Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Mon 12 Feb 2007, 16:24:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'I') came across an interesting definition:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')n a side note, although "idiot" is a nonspecific insult today, not long ago it had a precise technical meaning. In the early years of IQ tests, an idiot was someone with an IQ of 0-25, an imbecile had an IQ of 26-50, and a moron had an IQ of 51-70.


Source

So, as Peak Oil hits, food (and other resources) will be less available. One must ask what we, as a society, should do with our more vulnerable members. For this particular poll, let us consider the mentally challenged. (See? I can write in politically correct terms!)

The question, then, is what you think should be done with idiots, morons, and imbeciles. Please use the above definition, in terms of IQ, in your determination - being annoying is not the same as being an idiot, imbecile, or moron.

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I think, they will do quite fine in societal collapse environment.
After all crocodile has IQ below 25 (but probably more than 0) and it is doing fine in the wild. So idiot will...
Chimp has IQ in range 25-50 and is also doing fine in the wild. So imbecile will...
I guess, groups discussed above can be released into wild and they will manage well...

A bit of problem we will have with morons. Lack of precedence.
I think, we may also (carefully) try to release them into wild and hope for the best.

Conclusion: The most of troubles we are likely to have with highly educated and intelligent peoples...
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