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The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never get

Unread postby Armageddon » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 13:01:24

1) Peak oil
2) global warming
3) 911 inside job


When you mention these things to a typical flag waving , fox news watching person, or just about anyone for that matter, they will look at you like you a speaking in a foreign language, or that you a wack job.
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby ECM » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 13:13:37

People are educated to think in a manner that allows for easy control and manipulation. Also, most take the path of least resistance which means letting someone else dictate how they should think.

The sheep are leading the sheep in too many cases.
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby MD » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 13:22:53

I gotta say...if that's what armageddon looks like, bring on the war, babay!
Stop filling dumpsters, as much as you possibly can, and everything will get better.

Just think it through.
It's not hard to do.
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby mekrob » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 13:29:19

I can't wait to see that version of Abu Graib.
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby 128shot » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 14:11:56

Climate change? Sure, a lot of people have been spun into a different direction.

Peak oil? sure, I can agree with that.


9/11 an inside job? you just blew your whole argument.


If 9/11 was an inside job, then pigs can fly
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 14:36:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('128shot', 'C')limate change? Sure, a lot of people have been spun into a different direction.

Peak oil? sure, I can agree with that.


9/11 an inside job? you just blew your whole argument.


If 9/11 was an inside job, then pigs can fly




If 9/11 was an inside job, then the US government far more incompetent then I even thought possible. I do think it was allowed to happen though
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby kabu » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 14:46:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', '
')I do think it was allowed to happen though

inside job:
a crime committed by or in collusion with a person or persons closely associated with the victim

So you grant that it was "allowed", but that no collusion was involved? Why one, but not the other?
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby dukey » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 15:02:04

I think most people in Europe probably think global warming is a reality, just no one is doing a thing about it. They discuss it on the news quite frequently, all these carbon trading schemes etc to cut down CO2 emissions etc.

As for peak oil, i can sort of not blame people for not getting it. It get's complicated when u got shell saying we have 100 years of oil left. And tar sands .. and all the unconventional oil and reserve growth etc etc.

As for 911, definitely an inside job. I've spent countless hours researching this.
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 15:05:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'A')s for 911, definitely an inside job. I've spent countless hours researching this.


You tube and Google video do not count as "research".
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby dukey » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 15:10:08

what and u think reading debunking sites does ?

Give me a break. You can't see the simple and most obvious truth because of your cognitive dissonance. For your information I have entertained both sides of the argument, including the debunking websites and films. I bet you never even bothered to watch the short 911 video clip i made ?
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby KhanCEO » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 15:54:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'A')s for 911, definitely an inside job. I've spent countless hours researching this.


You tube and Google video do not count as "research".


Does this count as research?

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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby 128shot » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 17:15:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'w')hat and u think reading debunking sites does ?

Give me a break. You can't see the simple and most obvious truth because of your cognitive dissonance. For your information I have entertained both sides of the argument, including the debunking websites and films. I bet you never even bothered to watch the short 911 video clip i made ?


why would I watch your short one when I've watched many long ones that have been debunked over and over and over.


Conspiracy theorists and peak oil need to distance themselves, fast.
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 17:18:38

Maybe because 2 and 3 dont have solid answers? Unless of course you've come to the conclusion that your opinion on the matters and actually fact. In which case you've done nothing more then chosen one opinion which matches yours to pass off as fact thereby dismissing any and all alternatives as false.
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby 128shot » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 17:21:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'M')aybe because 2 and 3 dont have solid answers? Unless of course you've come to the conclusion that your opinion on the matters and actually fact. In which case you've done nothing more then chosen one opinion which matches yours to pass off as fact thereby dismissing any and all alternatives as false.


Climate change has a solid answer. Find me one scientifically credited article that dismisses climate change as induced by human activity.


Now try it with 9/11 inside job theories. There have been countless examinations as to how the towers fell. Have yet to find one that conclusively points out that it was planned.


If you think the Arabs hijacked that plane because the US let them and subsequently allowed 9/11 to happen, you'll have an even harder time proving that case too.
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 17:34:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('128shot', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'M')aybe because 2 and 3 dont have solid answers? Unless of course you've come to the conclusion that your opinion on the matters and actually fact. In which case you've done nothing more then chosen one opinion which matches yours to pass off as fact thereby dismissing any and all alternatives as false.


Climate change has a solid answer. Find me one scientifically credited article that dismisses climate change as induced by human activity.


Now try it with 9/11 inside job theories. There have been countless examinations as to how the towers fell. Have yet to find one that conclusively points out that it was planned.


If you think the Arabs hijacked that plane because the US let them and subsequently allowed 9/11 to happen, you'll have an even harder time proving that case too.


Lets go with the obvious.
Yes climate change exists. Yes 9/11 happened. What no one is certain of is what effect humans have on climate change, nor what effect the government had on 9/11.
Is humanity directly responsible for global warming? No one knows. Was the government directly responsible for 9/11? No one knows.

But a whole hell of a lot of people pretend to.
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby mercurygirl » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 17:38:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KhanCEO', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'A')s for 911, definitely an inside job. I've spent countless hours researching this.


You tube and Google video do not count as "research".


Does this count as research?

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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 17:39:59

If you want to research peak oil, you can sit around and watch videos and reading Micheal fucking Rupert's opinion or you can get real information by determing the what percentage of the earth is capable of withholding oil, how much oil is currently being recovered and then comparing that to the approximate usage by the entire planet.

Make sure you point out in your research that oil is not abiotic and that all unrefined oil carries microscopic evidence of the organisms from which it was formed. These organisms can be traced through the fossil record to specific time periods when quantities of oil were formed.
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby dukey » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 19:17:22

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I am glad someone mentioned this book. The problem with the lot of the 911 arguments is, they would not stand up in a court of law. The main reason is because there is basically no evidence, it was either destroyed or with held. Michael Ruppert takes a different approach, he argues the things that can be proven, such as the actions of Dick Cheney. And according to him, he has a solid enough case to convict key members of the Bush administration for their part in 911, including Dick Cheney. Being an ex cop .. I am sure he knows a thing or 2 about building a case..

Now .. i love this video. In this video if you can challenge the authenticty of any of his sources he will give you $1000. A challenge for the 'debunkers' no doubt. Will you rise to the challenge or simply ignore the things you don't want to hear ?

[flash width=400 height=326]http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=8797525979024486145&hl=en-GB[/flash]
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 19:25:17

I watched your entire clip dukey. More of the same.

Unsubstantiated innuendo, quotes taken out of context, and flashy mysterious music meant to drive your thoughts and opinions towards your way of thinking. Not one SHRED of proven factual data, just conjecture.

By the way, the video isnt bad but you could use some more color with the text slides and the music stops about a minute and a half from the end. It needs a bit of polish.

Cognitive dissonance? Hee hee, big words for a truther. Unfortunately you cant see the forest for the trees.
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Re: The 3 most obvious truths that 99 % of people will never

Unread postby dukey » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 19:33:52

well thanks for taking the time to watch :]
First video i've ever made lol.

Except the quotes, the rest was from mainstream media.
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