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The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby Zardoz » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 04:08:45

Forbes' list even more exclusive: All are billionaires

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')or the first time, Forbes magazine's list of the 400 richest Americans consists exclusively of people worth $1 billion or more.

Wow. Now it takes a billion to make the cut. I feel so inadequate.

By the way, post-peak, when resources get short and they start getting "allocated" to various parts of the nation, which areas do you think just might do a little better than others? I'll give you a hint:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he biggest number of people on the list live in California, which houses 90 of the 400, and another 44 live in New York City.
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby Doly » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 05:51:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he biggest number of people on the list live in California, which houses 90 of the 400, and another 44 live in New York City.


California might do OK (their main problem is water, but that could be solved with careful rationing and the right infrastructure). But I definitely would not recommend NYC. That's the best example of unsustainability I can think of.
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby qwerty » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 10:37:56

That's the really sick part of it,
when America crashes and the middle and upper classes all but
dissappear, that leaves a small handful of super elites like
Billy Gates, Trump, etc that will only get all the richer
becuase of demand destruction and depopulation (dieoff) of the
other 99.99% not so lucky americans.
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby ChineseTurtle » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 19:52:49

The overwhelming impression I am getting during my current trip to China is that the elite 1% here is getting very wealthy, while the other 99% are living very humble lives.

TheTurtle (reporting from Beijing)
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby qwerty » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 19:54:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ChineseTurtle', 'T')he overwhelming impression I am getting during my current trip to China is that the elite 1% here is getting very wealthy, while the other 99% are living very humble lives.

TheTurtle (reporting from Beijing)


So does that mean you not a moderator anymore?

I bet Lawmage would jump at the chance.
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby jaws » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 00:05:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ChineseTurtle', 'T')he overwhelming impression I am getting during my current trip to China is that the elite 1% here is getting very wealthy, while the other 99% are living very humble lives.

TheTurtle (reporting from Beijing)

That is normal. The most enterprising individuals will be the first to get rich, and the rest will follow after.

There are parts of the countries where wages are going up 40% a year. Life will get better.
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby Armageddon » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 00:11:23

the bible says that in the end times, people will be throwing their money in the streets because it will be worthless. Thats not too far fetched in this fiat money system.
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby DesertBear2 » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 01:33:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 't')he bible says that in the end times, people will be throwing their money in the streets because it will be worthless.


Which "end times" are you referring to?

The "end times" during the Roman occupation in the first century?

The "end times" in the year 1000AD when millions sold everything and waited on hillsides for the second coming?

Or the many other dozens and dozens of "end times" that have been imagined and awaited by zealous Christian groups in the last 2000 years?
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby rwwff » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 01:46:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DesertBear2', 'O')r the many other dozens and dozens of "end times" that have been imagined and awaited by zealous Christian groups in the last 2000 years?


They waited in the past.

They (we?) are going to *make* this one happen. If the Lord wishes to attend....

On the topic though... Its not as simple as to say that only a few hundred will be rich; these ultra wealthy are surrounded by thousands of regular wealthy people; they fill out the rolls of country clubs, and fill the seats on the beach at Aruba. They are wealthy enough to have conversations with, but not so wealthy as to be oblivious to the magnitude of the difference. Post collapse, there will still be thousands upon thousands of very rich people. The people that won't make the cut, are the ones earning 400% to 1000% of median but are using that money to live in style instead of using that income to create value. Those below these guys, were never in the running to begin with; and all they can hope for is to stay out of the way like freeholders in unproductive places in the middle ages. Don't poke the beast, and the beast won't smush you.
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby DesertBear2 » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 01:58:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', '
')They waited in the past.

They (we?) are going to *make* this one happen. If the Lord wishes to attend....


Care to elaborate on that?

Is the "end times" simply a matter of will power? Will all the true believers fly naked into the sky to meet Jesus because it is such a nice vision?
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby Armageddon » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 09:51:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DesertBear2', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 't')he bible says that in the end times, people will be throwing their money in the streets because it will be worthless.


Which "end times" are you referring to?

The "end times" during the Roman occupation in the first century?

The "end times" in the year 1000AD when millions sold everything and waited on hillsides for the second coming?

Or the many other dozens and dozens of "end times" that have been imagined and awaited by zealous Christian groups in the last 2000 years?


The end times for the Jewish people during the roman overthrowment was just the first part of the two part prophecy. The next one will be on a world wide scale, not just secluded to the jews.
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby rwwff » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 10:05:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DesertBear2', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', 'T')hey waited in the past.
They (we?) are going to *make* this one happen. If the Lord wishes to attend....

Care to elaborate on that?
Is the "end times" simply a matter of will power? Will all the true believers fly naked into the sky to meet Jesus because it is such a nice vision?


Explaining jokes or sarcasm kills them.

I was refering to the seemingly inexorable march towards a great war in the middle east.
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby TommyJefferson » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 13:11:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '.').. post-peak, when resources get short and they start getting "allocated" to various parts of the nation, which areas do you think just might do a little better than others?


That depends upon the strength of the central government.

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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby JustinFrankl » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 14:44:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'B')y the way, post-peak, when resources get short and they start getting "allocated" to various parts of the nation, which areas do you think just might do a little better than others? I'll give you a hint:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he biggest number of people on the list live in California, which houses 90 of the 400, and another 44 live in New York City.

Well, this presents a bit of a problem. California is huge, and New York City is a nightmare.

I think the areas which receive assistance will become increasingly highly targetted. I'll bet the majority, if not all, of the richest in NYC live in one or two burroughs, and those burroughs will receive more support than their neighbors.
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby Denny » Mon 25 Sep 2006, 17:03:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '[')By the way, post-peak, when resources get short and they start getting "allocated" to various parts of the nation, which areas do you think just might do a little better than others?


I think it will depend on which areas have "real money", and not the dead president variety. A billion in dead presidents may be as useful as a wheelbarrow load of German marks was in 1922.

So, if you have real assets, like farmland, or a forestry operation, or some gold or silver coins, etc., you may be moving higher up the pecking order.
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby sciencegirl » Mon 25 Sep 2006, 19:16:22

I joined the Communist Party of Canada, and if enough people like me around the world start demanding communism over capitalism, that will really stop the rich from getting richer.
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby Denny » Mon 25 Sep 2006, 19:27:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sciencegirl', 'I') joined the Communist Party of Canada, and if enough people like me around the world start demanding communism over capitalism, that will really stop the rich from getting richer.


The real challenge is not making the rich poorer. Communists always found that pretty easy to master. The real challenge is helping the poor get richer. And on a sustained basis.

Communism turned out to be a fraud. Just another power grab, by pseudo-intellectuals instead of capitalists, but focussed in the end to keeping the poor subservient and powerless.
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby Matrim » Mon 25 Sep 2006, 20:46:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') joined the Communist Party of Canada, and if enough people like me around the world start demanding communism over capitalism, that will really stop the rich from getting richer.


Thats just silly. Every Communist nation has the same story as us only the rich 1% is more like .1% ie. even worse

The commies talk a good game but they can't(won't?) back it up.

Armageddon,

The bible also says it's a sin to wear clothes made of more than one kind of material. Lev. 19-19 Do you believe that? I only had to read half a page picked at random to find something retarded in that "holy" book.

On a side note God seems particularly concerned that I might sacrifice my children to molech. I thought that was strange, but then molech is like so out these days. :lol:

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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby sciencegirl » Mon 25 Sep 2006, 22:12:28

Communism is the perfect system, all that needs to be fixed is human rights.
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Re: The rich really are getting richer

Unread postby venky » Mon 25 Sep 2006, 23:32:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sciencegirl', 'C')ommunism is the perfect system, all that needs to be fixed is human rights.


You are joking, right?

right? 8O
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