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65 million years A.D.

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Sat 02 Sep 2006, 23:31:55

Assuming the worst happens and we humans go the way of the Dodo will there be any evidence of all this for the Roach/Rat/Squid men to find. Or will we just be bones in a museum label as those funny bipedal monkey things?
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 02 Sep 2006, 23:54:50

Most species don't last that long anyway. Some do, but the majority don't.
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 01:06:57

There used to be predator ancestors of snails that swam in the ancient seas who were at the top of the food chain for many millions of years. Top of the food chain is a precarious position though. The natural world has it's own "arms race". The bigger they are, the harder they fall. I think it has something to do with specialization.
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby rogerhb » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 01:20:47

There will be some predicting the second coming, but they will be at war with those who are awaiting the third coming.

Those awaiting the forth coming aren't holding their breaths because the previous two didn't really amount to much.

Fusion is predicted at being feasible in 65,000,030 AD.
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 01:32:05

Didn't we once have a discussion how it would be better to use the term C.E. instead of A.D.?
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby NEOPO » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 01:53:40

I think I am going to change my name to Lemurian artifact ;-)
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby rogerhb » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 02:13:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'D')idn't we once have a discussion how it would be better to use the term C.E. instead of A.D.?


But that only referred to serious discourse. :)

Also, it's polite to use similar terminology to the question.....
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 02:23:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'D')idn't we once have a discussion how it would be better to use the term C.E. instead of A.D.?


But that only referred to serious discourse. :)

Also, it's polite to use similar terminology to the question.....
yeah, I guess this is frivolity. If the human race has gotta go, it's gotta go, that's all.
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby TheDude » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 03:47:40

I remember this trippy book, I think it was called 75 Million AD (close to your title - are you still interested?), depicting the flora and fauna of a future Australia. Mostly I remember the 5 foot tall Kangaroo rats. Lovely illustrations. Haven't seen it in 20 years though.
You might also want to read up on Forbidden Archaeology, which was put together by a pair of heavy-duty Hindus, big into the Days of Brahma or whatever they are - each is 3 trillion years long or the like. You don't learn that from the book jacket, though. It's very dull apparently, and shows all sorts of evidence of past civilizations on earth - gold necklaces in coal seams, etc. First rate pseudoscience they say.
I ponder this topic on occasion, though. Humans go kafloom! and what'll be left?
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby Aaron » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 07:39:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') ponder this topic on occasion, though. Humans go kafloom! and what'll be left?


Millions of unused styrene McRib containers...

Spent shell casings...

Radioactive glow...

And of course... Rock & Roll... cause ya know...
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 10:44:41

I was kind of wondering if all that would be left of us was bones or will pollute the fossil record with Hummers.
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby Tanada » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 11:21:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Atlantean_Relic', 'I') was kind of wondering if all that would be left of us was bones or will pollute the fossil record with Hummers.


Old style autos will rust away, but modern cars have a lot of plastic and aluminum that would make piles in the fossil record.....
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 11:44:37

Great so, in the future we will have started cults amoungst the ratmen based Pespi and Coke cans
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 12:34:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Atlantean_Relic', 'G')reat so, in the future we will have started cults amoungst the ratmen based Pespi and Coke cans

Yep. They'll be displaying "fossilized" remains of airplanes in their museums right next to dinosaur bones.

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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 14:28:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Atlantean_Relic', 'G')reat so, in the future we will have started cults amoungst the ratmen based Pespi and Coke cans
Most of the ratmen won't believe or care. But they'll have late night ratradio shows that talk about the ancient bipeds. Since almost everything we made will be gone without a trace by then, the ratpeople will just scoff and laugh. But the shows will get good ratings, especially among rattruckers. There will be debates whether the fuel supplies from ancient bipeds will be sustainable and how will they live when it runs out. Eventually the ratpeople will all die and be turned into fuel inside the earth. Eons later, intelligent mollusks will discover how to use the precious fuel, and they will squander it too....
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby Kylon » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 17:22:02

I think we should create an underwater container containing cryogenicly frozen humans, plants, technology and all that other stuff that we need to function/survive.

Or we could launch something into space at a predictable orbit, that way we could get much, much, much lower temperatures.

Then like 5,000 years from now, they could go back to the Earth, and setup a new civilization, with their technology.

By then, the ecosystems should have recovered a bit... and because there will be so few humans(at most a couple of hundred), and because all the other humans would have either died off, or become primitive agraian, nomadic, or cave dwellers, with very little technology, they could re-establish civilization.

The civilization they could re-establish would depend on what they valued.

On the other hand, if the entire planet had become uninhabitable, and had stayed dead, for the next 5,000 years, then the ship could automatically go back to sleep, and continue on it's circling journey, until the planet once more became inhabitable.

After that, humans could go back down there, and repopulate the Earth, but in a much more intelligent manner.
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby rogerhb » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 17:28:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', '.').. and repopulate the Earth, but in a much more intelligent manner.


Now what, in the whole of history of mankind, would suggest that we would do that?
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby HamRadioRocks » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 20:53:47

I can't believe how pessimistic everyone is. The consensus is that not only will the human race completely die, any advanced cockroaches, mollusks, etc. that start a new civilization later will meet exactly the same fate.
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby rogerhb » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 21:05:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HamRadioRocks', 'T')he consensus is that not only will the human race completely die, any advanced cockroaches, mollusks, etc. that start a new civilization later will meet exactly the same fate.


Yes, if you conclude that it is rampant global civilisation that is unsustainable then any creature that attempts it will fail.

The difference being that the ones that follow won't use oil, and if we get our way, coal either.
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Re: 65 million years A.D.

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 03 Sep 2006, 21:33:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HamRadioRocks', 'I') can't believe how pessimistic everyone is. The consensus is that not only will the human race completely die, any advanced cockroaches, mollusks, etc. that start a new civilization later will meet exactly the same fate.
Maybe the intelligent mollusks will get the word out with ham radio and break the cycle! I'd vote for them, but damn the ratpeople.
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