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Biggest threat to US economy over next 5 years Poll

Peak Oil
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Earthquake of 6.0 or greater
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Hurricane
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Terrorism
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War
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Consumer Debt
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Government corruption
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Global Warming
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Total votes : 45

Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Sun 20 Aug 2006, 11:20:03

Which do you believe is the biggest threat to the US over the next five years and why?
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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Sun 20 Aug 2006, 11:25:58

My thought is that an Earthquake will hit the California area that will be the long over due 'big one' and kick-off the beginnings of a more major decline of the US economy.

I think that a major Earthquake in the San Francisco area timed around hurricane season could be disastrous. I'm not saying it will happen anytime soon but since we all know a hurricane is bound to hit landfall over the next five years and the possibility of a huge earthquake is very really I believe those are much bigger threats to the US than Terrorism and War.
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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby foodnotlawns » Sun 20 Aug 2006, 11:37:23

War.

I know a lot of people on this board think I'm a bad guy because I am pro-White and I have expressed dissident opinions to Jewish shaped foreign policy, but I mourn what we are doing to the Iraqis, the Afghans, and various others. It sure as hell isn't in my name!

The bad things are going to come home to all of us.

All the "victor's history" about the "evil Nazis" turns out to be totally applicable to Bush. When I was 18 I registered Republican, but I haven't voted for a Republikud since 1996. The US today is worse than Hitler, worse than Stalin, worse than Pol Pot. None of those guys used Depleted Uranium. Depleted Uranium is like Romans "salting the fields of Carthage" except far, far worse.

The people in my neighborhood -- I've tried to warn them, to convince them to start car-pooling and growing gardens, but they are wilfully blind. Patri-idiot pigs to the very end, and I apologize for insulting pigs.

The actions of the Bush administration are a threat to EVERYONE on the planet, including us.

We're all going down. At least I'll get to tell them "I TOLD YOU SO YOU FUCKING DUMB SHIT BASTARDS!"
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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby mmasters » Sun 20 Aug 2006, 12:39:32

I chose consumer debt slightly over peak oil because I think the consequenses will hit home faster than peak oil. Many of these things are interconnected though so it's hard to say one versus the other.
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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby rwwff » Sun 20 Aug 2006, 13:05:53

I go with mmasters on this one. Only Consumer Debt has the broad based reach that could harm the economy. Something like a 20% devaluation in real estate, followed by some normal business cycle hickup could really pop a balloon if it goes down poorly.
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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby Ludi » Sun 20 Aug 2006, 13:23:05

Government corruption siphoning money from all our pockets and putting it in the pockets of an incompetent few.
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Unread postby Tanada » Sun 20 Aug 2006, 15:18:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sabibaby', 'W')hich do you believe is the biggest threat to the US over the next five years and why?


None of the above, because the greater depression will set in first and we won't notice PO for a while as we try and dig our way out of the economic collapse. Oil demand will plummet and mask the peak IMO.
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Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Sun 20 Aug 2006, 17:01:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sabibaby', 'W')hich do you believe is the biggest threat to the US over the next five years and why?


None of the above, because the greater depression will set in first and we won't notice PO for a while as we try and dig our way out of the economic collapse. Oil demand will plummet and mask the peak IMO.


Maybe I should have been more specific but what I was look for would be "which of the following 'disasters/world events' do you think is the biggest threat..." I'm not necessarily looking for THE one and only biggest threat ever but which of the following. Like if I asked you "which team do you think will win -Team A or Team B?" and you could only pick between one A or B but not neither and not both...
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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby Lighthouse » Sun 20 Aug 2006, 20:48:59

I think PO is the biggest thread because of it's impact on other fields like economy, social structure, health, crime etc. All natural disasters will just speed up the PO shit hitting the fan.
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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby eastbay » Sun 20 Aug 2006, 22:23:20

The biggest no-brainer in the history of the universe is that it's oil.

Oil is what's made the human (mostly Third World) population explode like a cancer over the past many decades. Remove the oil and the same people recently brought forth by the power of oil will die off as fast as they were brought forth. Then the reduction in numbers will hit the rest.... Europeans, Japanese, North Americans, S. Koreans... the reduction will in time affect all of the rest.
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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Mon 21 Aug 2006, 15:50:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'T')he biggest no-brainer in the history of the universe is that it's oil.

Oil is what's made the human (mostly Third World) population explode like a cancer over the past many decades. Remove the oil and the same people recently brought forth by the power of oil will die off as fast as they were brought forth. Then the reduction in numbers will hit the rest.... Europeans, Japanese, North Americans, S. Koreans... the reduction will in time affect all of the rest.


I don't think oil is a no-brainer over a five year period. Maybe over 10 or 15 years... We'll see. I believe a natural disaster could criple the US economy far worse BUT... that coupled with Peakoil could be pretty disasterous.

My biggest question was answered with this "experiment post"

IS ANYONE scared of TERRORISM??? Even with the huge scare taking place across the globe right now, Iran remains defiant to US propaganda and pressure and North Korea continues its 'testing'
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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby Ingenuity_Gap » Mon 21 Aug 2006, 18:02:32

In 5 years? Most likely consumer debt. After 5 years, PO of course.
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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby rwwff » Mon 21 Aug 2006, 18:43:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sabibaby', 'I')S ANYONE scared of TERRORISM??? Even with the huge scare taking place across the globe right now, Iran remains defiant to US propaganda and pressure and North Korea continues its 'testing'


Boring.... When terrorists manage to kill more people in the US than we kill recreationally on the highways... let me know.
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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby PrairieMule » Mon 21 Aug 2006, 19:22:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', 'k')ill more people in the US than we kill recreationally on the highways... let me know.


Lets not give the Dept for Homeland Security any ideas. Next thing you know we we will have pull over on the highway, take off our shoes and get frisked. The terrorists may not have a WMD but it is well documented they have "car bomb" technology.

For the record, I think the biggest threat to America will be oil. To be more more specific any disruption in Just-in-time Logistics(Trucker strike, Wal-mart runs out of bread, gas rationing, etc.)
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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Mon 21 Aug 2006, 19:48:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sabibaby', 'I')S ANYONE scared of TERRORISM??? Even with the huge scare taking place across the globe right now, Iran remains defiant to US propaganda and pressure and North Korea continues its 'testing'


Boring.... When terrorists manage to kill more people in the US than we kill recreationally on the highways... let me know.


Good point! Someone needs to tell that to the media...
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Unread postby TITAN » Mon 21 Aug 2006, 22:46:45

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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby Lighthouse » Mon 21 Aug 2006, 23:58:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sabibaby', '.')..

IS ANYONE scared of TERRORISM??? Even with the huge scare taking place across the globe right now, Iran remains defiant to US propaganda and pressure and North Korea continues its 'testing'


Why should we? Listen in the USA there are more people killed by car accidents than by Terrorists. The same is true for heart attacks, gunshot wounds, Diabetes Type 2, high blood pressure, and so on. But your government is not interested to spend funds to reduce i.e. car accidents.

Terrorists are not really a big threat, they just make big news. But everyone is scared about terrorism, which gives the government a free ride to cut off all our freedoms piece by piece without anyone complaining. Maybe that's the reason for the big news?
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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby rwwff » Tue 22 Aug 2006, 00:09:39

Ok, if we're nominating stuff not on the list now...

Hillary Clinton.

I think that critter would set off a nuclear war just to get her ego stroked.
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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Tue 22 Aug 2006, 09:23:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sabibaby', '.')..

IS ANYONE scared of TERRORISM??? Even with the huge scare taking place across the globe right now, Iran remains defiant to US propaganda and pressure and North Korea continues its 'testing'


Why should we? Listen in the USA there are more people killed by car accidents than by Terrorists. The same is true for heart attacks, gunshot wounds, Diabetes Type 2, high blood pressure, and so on. But your government is not interested to spend funds to reduce i.e. car accidents.

Terrorists are not really a big threat, they just make big news. But everyone is scared about terrorism, which gives the government a free ride to cut off all our freedoms piece by piece without anyone complaining. Maybe that's the reason for the big news?


That was my whole point for this poll. To see if anyone actually gives a sh!t about what’s in the media. Despite all the attention terrorism is getting, nobody really cares because things like consumer debt have far worse consequences –unless Bush and Co. can somehow tie terrorism to an Americans debt.

I just needed some soap box platform to express to my friends and family that there are far worse things in this nation than terrorism and that the media is covering the wrong issues and giving far too much attention to things like Jon Benet when they should be focusing on the real problems because at some point its going to hit the public like a ton of bricks and that this time the US economy won’t recover in a few years, more like a few centuries.
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Re: Biggest threat to USA over next 5 years Poll

Unread postby Falconoffury » Tue 22 Aug 2006, 09:42:17

I chose government corruption because it is the reason why we can't solve all the other problems in that list.
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