[entropyfails]

From the The Independent

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')Detailed information on pesticide expenditures reveals that, though Bt farmers saved 46 per cent of bollworm pesticide relative to non-Bt farmers, they spend 40 per cent more on pesticides designed to kill an emerging secondary pest," they say.

[duke3522]

Hey All,

I’m with you guys on not liking the GM stuff. But ever since the farmer that surrounds my little 2.77 acres started using Roundup ready soy beans his fields have been cleaner than I ever imagined a field of soybeans could be. He also claims to have a fairly significant increase in yield in the Roundup fields.

He knows I don’t like the GM’s or the sprays he uses, but at least when he sprays around my place he tries to do it on a windless day and he gives me a day or two warning so I can cover up most of my garden. Better than most of the farmers I hear about around here.

[Ludi]

But are those "clean fields" really worth the RoundUp in the ground water?

Denmark banned RoundUp in 2003 because of groundwater contamination....

"Short-term: EPA has found glyphosate to potentially cause the following health effects when people are exposed to it at levels above the MCL for relatively short periods of time: congestion of the lungs; increased breathing rate.
Long-term: Glyphosate has the potential to cause the following effects from a lifetime exposure at levels above the MCL: kidney damage, reproductive effects."

http://www.epa.gov/safewater/contaminan ... phosa.html

[duke3522]

Hey Ludi,

Not worth it, not worth it at all. I was just pointing out that farmers have what they believe are valid reasons for using the stuff. There is simply to much money to be made for the US to ever ban these poisons.