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Who Are You Most Afraid Of?

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Who are you most afraid of?

Poll ended at Mon 24 Jul 2006, 20:17:03

Islamic Fascists.
7
No votes
Home Grown Criminals and Thugs.
5
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Extremist Christians.
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No votes
China/Russia
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Homosexuals
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US Government
22
No votes
Home Country Government (for non US residents)
5
No votes
Zionists
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No votes
 
Total votes : 56

Who Are You Most Afraid Of?

Unread postby duke3522 » Fri 14 Jul 2006, 20:17:03

So just who are you afraid of?

It has to be the US government for me. They are far more likely to mess with me than anyone else on the list. I guess the Christians would be #2. But hell, I can fake being a Christian if need be.

As for the rest? Well the criminals and thugs around here are scared of me. Not the other way around. And the rest are not even on the scope.
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Re: Who Are You Most Afaid Of?

Unread postby EndDays » Sat 15 Jul 2006, 12:48:44

So what exactly is an "Extremist Christian"?

A follower of Jesus Christ will be Christ-like. The same Jesus Christ who was forgiving people who were killing Him because He was dying to save them.

That is a Christian and you will know them by their fruit. Just because someone says they are Christian, doesn't mean they are.

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Re: Who Are You Most Afaid Of?

Unread postby Novus » Sat 15 Jul 2006, 14:52:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndDays', 'S')o what exactly is an "Extremist Christian"?

A follower of Jesus Christ will be Christ-like. The same Jesus Christ who was forgiving people who were killing Him because He was dying to save them.

That is a Christian and you will know them by their fruit. Just because someone says they are Christian, doesn't mean they are.

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We are not talking about your average Christian here, we are talking about the real nutcases.

An Extremist Christian is someone when you talk to them about peak oil they blow you off because it is just part of God's plan. Jesus won't allow for petro-collapse or we will just get raptured. They don't want to hear about giving up consumerism and the American way of life. I find this highly ironic since Jesus thought the world was too materialistic 2000 years ago.
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Re: Who Are You Most Afaid Of?

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Sat 15 Jul 2006, 15:15:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', '
')We are not talking about your average Christian here, we are talking about the real nutcases.

An Extremist Christian is someone when you talk to them about peak oil they blow you off because it is just part of God's plan. Jesus won't allow for petro-collapse or we will just get raptured. They don't want to hear about giving up consumerism and the American way of life. I find this highly ironic since Jesus thought the world was too materialistic 2000 years ago.


well, you know ... as long as we pay our taxes on time, they let us run around without a straitjacket '8)'

it's amazing who you will run into at YMCA gyms that would fall into the demographic category of "upper middle class/ wealthy".

the Y i went to for about 8 years served the encinitas-rancho santa fe population in north county coastal san diego.

the Xtian viewpoints i heard expressed in conversation in the weight room & the hot tub were - something else !

based on the people i met there, well into 6 figure incomes, degreed, "pillar of society" types - i would say that what you are calling "Extremist Christian" is very normal.

if i injected a comment that would advocate Christian values, for example, "wouldn't it be a little more Christian if we stopped spreading nuclear waste around Iraq in the form of deplete uranium munitions", well, that got laughed at. "you're worried about DUST !" (yes, when it's toxic and radio-active, i AM concerned about dust).

so, i checked "US government", though i would add, "gym room supervisors who freak out if you use the smith press to do high-bar leg stretches".
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Re: Who Are You Most Afaid Of?

Unread postby Ludi » Sat 15 Jul 2006, 18:55:17

Somewhere between "US government" and "extremist Christians" mainly because some extremist Christians are in positions of power in the US guvmint right now and acting irresponsibly.
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Re: Who Are You Most Afaid Of?

Unread postby duke3522 » Sat 15 Jul 2006, 20:30:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndDays', 'S')o what exactly is an "Extremist Christian"?

A follower of Jesus Christ will be Christ-like. The same Jesus Christ who was forgiving people who were killing Him because He was dying to save them.

That is a Christian and you will know them by their fruit. Just because someone says they are Christian, doesn't mean they are.

ED


This is what I mean by extremist Christians.

A friend of mine is a Chiropractor in a small city near me that has a large fundamentalist Christian population. Many of whom are patients of my friend.

Well, just a few days ago he had a very attractive, mid 20’s, young lady come to his practice for the first time. And while he was adjusting her they got around to the topic of the ME. The next thing he knew she was telling him that Israel was doing God’s work and that the US or Israel should just go ahead and nuke them all.

Normally him and I would just laugh this off as some idiot blowing smoke out their ***. But the problem is that many more of his patients are expressing similar opinions.

I also understand that many of our Holy Roller preachers in town are preaching the message that Israel pushing the palis off the west bank is a fulfillment of prophecy signaling the return of their Christ.

These people are just so clueless. The new war in the ME has the potential to reduce the supply of oil flowing into the US. And what happens to the US if we have to get by on 10-15mbd. Or, even worse, we have to get by on just domestic production. This is where the danger lies to the US. Not in a nuclear Iran.

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Re: Who Are You Most Afaid Of?

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Sat 15 Jul 2006, 21:47:45

at the Horizon Christian Fellowship in Rancho Santa Fe, i went to a 9:30 service, courtesy of people from the Y.

this is their prime time service. they have 14 acres. Rancho Santa Fe is a wealthy community, demographically. big turnout.

message of the day is - the #1 thing, the ONLY thing, the DUTY of the Christians present - to Love God.

whatever that means.

how can you Love God if you're worrying about that silly war in Iraq ? it's pretty hard. where are your priorities ? forget about Iraq, Love God.

that was the gist of Pastor Bob's sermon.

these are the people who elected Duke Cunningham. and George Bush.

it's fascinating to see how politics and religion and business are woven together in America.
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Re: Who Are You Most Afaid Of?

Unread postby lateralus » Sun 16 Jul 2006, 03:55:12

Where's the column to vote for the Extreme Christians with a Zionist agenda running the US Government who are little more than thugs?

That's the one to get my vote. You know them...they are everywhere...praise Jesus, the second coming is at hand, all hail Israel, nuke the world...seen usually frothing at the mouth with a slight glaze in their eyes as they mouth scripture....the movie was called Night of the Living Dead. :wink:
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Re: Who Are You Most Afaid Of?

Unread postby medicvet » Sun 16 Jul 2006, 04:05:38

I voted for extremist Christian but would have voted for 'radical extremist fundamentalist religious fanatics, period' if that had been an option. And given the shit I think is fixing to go down, would vote for the thugs next.

I only put the thugs second is because it is only too obvious who they are is all..the other ones are harder to define and sneaky as all get out and therefore more dangerous.
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Re: Who Are You Most Afaid Of?

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Wed 19 Jul 2006, 20:35:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateralus', 'W')here's the column to vote for the Extreme Christians with a Zionist agenda running the US Government who are little more than thugs?

That's the one to get my vote. You know them...they are everywhere...praise Jesus, the second coming is at hand, all hail Israel, nuke the world...seen usually frothing at the mouth with a slight glaze in their eyes as they mouth scripture....the movie was called Night of the Living Dead. :wink:


and here's an excerpt about tonight's sermon at one of the largest & wealthiest churches in San Diego ...
"Pastor * will be teaching in the book of Ezekiel on how the current events in Israel relate to end times prophecy. You can join our service through our live web cast beginning at 6pm. I hope you can join us."

an image from Fox, one of many
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sure looks like the pump is being primed for another Israeli-American "Osiraq", a reference to the attack on Iraq in about 1981.
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Re: Who Are You Most Afraid Of?

Unread postby lotrfan55345 » Wed 19 Jul 2006, 22:59:20

homosexuals!
fuckin' fags!
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Re: Who Are You Most Afraid Of?

Unread postby SeasonOfPain » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 10:53:06

I fear the U.S. Government most in the short-term (or, more precisely, the corporations that own it), because they have the most power to escalate the die-off (which is their plan).

Extremist Christians actually piss me off the most because they're deluded, wilfully ignorant, and can't be swayed by logic. I'm realistic enough to realize that about half the population of the U.S. is this way, and has no hope of changing. They'll try to beat everyone else into submission, then if they're still alive when everyone else is dead they'll starve to death muttering to themselves about how right they were and how Jeebus will arrive any time now. All because they're too weak to handle a little introspection and critical thinking.

I apply the same criticism to any religious zealot in the world; however, the religious idiots in the U.S. have no excuse, as they actually have the resources (for now) to educate themselves and rise above all this crap; they're simply too intellectually lazy to do it.
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Re: Who Are You Most Afraid Of?

Unread postby peaker_2005 » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 11:03:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeasonOfPain', 'I') fear the U.S. Government most in the short-term (or, more precisely, the corporations that own it), because they have the most power to escalate the die-off (which is their plan).

Extremist Christians actually piss me off the most because they're deluded, wilfully ignorant, and can't be swayed by logic. I'm realistic enough to realize that about half the population of the U.S. is this way, and has no hope of changing. They'll try to beat everyone else into submission, then if they're still alive when everyone else is dead they'll starve to death muttering to themselves about how right they were and how Jeebus will arrive any time now. All because they're too weak to handle a little introspection and critical thinking.

I apply the same criticism to any religious zealot in the world; however, the religious idiots in the U.S. have no excuse, as they actually have the resources (for now) to educate themselves and rise above all this crap; they're simply too intellectually lazy to do it.


Not all of us fail to think critically. After all, I'm here, and understand that society is likely to undergo a thorough gutting.

Now, that doesn't mean I think this is necessarily THE END (though I don't rule out the possibility, but then, I rarely rule many things out without good reason).

I'm not in the US, but I worry about that government alot (although I've gotta admit "Liberal" seems to be turning into Republican Lite).
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Re: Who Are You Most Afraid Of?

Unread postby Grifter » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 11:06:34

I'm scared of big hard hairy homosexual rapists.
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Re: Who Are You Most Afraid Of?

Unread postby presidentsherrill » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 14:25:03

I wouldn't be too worried about them, as I hear they don't rape thier own. ;)


Anywho, I worry about how many people out there, actually want the end of times to be brought forth. These people need that big sign that is going to tell them that thier whole life has not been wasted praying to a figment of thier imagination.

Religion (and those who control the masses throught it) is why the world is in the shape it is today. Nearly all war has some basis in religion.

I wish that someday people will wise the hell up and realize that there is no afterlife; before they distroy the one home we actually have.
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Re: Who Are You Most Afraid Of?

Unread postby MacG » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 17:14:14

What about "My neighbourghs?" Did not see that option. They are stupid as ketchup bottles, and they vote. And judged by the stares they give me, they dont like me at all. They seem to be in majority though.
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