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Re: Michael Lynch - Disputing Peak Oil

Unread postby seahorse » Wed 28 Jun 2006, 23:35:16

Energydigger,

I joined your site today. Look forward to following it.
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Re: Michael Lynch - Disputing Peak Oil

Unread postby EnergyDigger » Wed 28 Jun 2006, 23:47:08

thanks - I hope some people join it and make a little discussion there - it is a new site and there are only a handfull of people there - there may not be any great discussions there for a while till people get to know where the site is... thanks for joining - get the ball to rolling by placing a few comments out on the boards and maybe some people will chime in on the forums at EnergyDigger.com ... the main thrust of the site was to generate the best oil and gas news from around the world - I wrote the aolgorithms to scour the globe of hundreds of newspapers to gather the most relevant news in the energy industry - it is working quite wll actually.

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Re: Michael Lynch - Disputing Peak Oil

Unread postby WebHubbleTelescope » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 02:52:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyDigger', 't')hanks - I hope some people join it and make a little discussion there - it is a new site and there are only a handfull of people there - there may not be any great discussions there for a while till people get to know where the site is... thanks for joining - get the ball to rolling by placing a few comments out on the boards and maybe some people will chime in on the forums at EnergyDigger.com ... the main thrust of the site was to generate the best oil and gas news from around the world - I wrote the aolgorithms to scour the globe of hundreds of newspapers to gather the most relevant news in the energy industry - it is working quite wll actually.


"I wrote the aolgorithms to scour the globe of hundreds of newspapers"

Say what ? We don't dig the snake oil here. You ain't doing no algorithms, just configuring a freeware NewsManager aggregator. I can't stand this crap when someone applies Viagra to his imaginary and obviously rather limp skill set.
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Re: Michael Lynch - Disputing Peak Oil

Unread postby EnergyDigger » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 07:51:16

I beg your pardon sir but you are wrong - your arrogant attitude presumes that there are not people out there who can custom program and that I am lieing about my work - "My rather limp skillset" is this: I taught engineering level programming at a major university in the 80's and your foolish comments should not go unchallenged - this is custom coded algorythems that collect, score and distinguish between different stories across many news XML services around the globe - it even deletes duplicate news storys about the same topic that ultimately appear in different news feeds daily so there are never 2 stories on the same issue - the fuzzy logic algorythems are not unlike the search engines news services that throw out duplicate stories that appear on the same story in different news feeds...totally automated.

I have turned on my scoring, keywords & key phrases output for a few hours today just for you - have a look at the website again at EnergyDigger.com - you might change your mind - also, PeakOil.com was impressed enough with it to place it on the news links site at: http://www.peakoil.com/gate.html?name=W ... link&cid=4

EnergyDigger.com is over 20,000 lines of custom VBS script that took 6 months to write and test - try to mimic this site if you are so sure it is an easy thing to re-produce and show me I am producing something easily replicated - you should be able to have it up on the web today from the sound of your rhetoric - I will be waiting to see your link to this - show all these people how you have me cornered.

Sounds like you are a real smart guy - Go flatter yourself somewhere else.
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Re: Michael Lynch - Disputing Peak Oil

Unread postby WebHubbleTelescope » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 08:55:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyDigger', ' ')I taught engineering level programming at a major university in the 80's and your foolish comments should not go unchallenged - this is custom coded algorythems that collect, score and distinguish between different stories across many news XML services around the globe


algorythems? Come on, I don't even think you know what an algorithm is. I bet that you didn't teach at a university.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyDigger', 't')he fuzzy logic algorythems are not unlike the search engines news services that throw out duplicate stories that appear on the same story in different news feeds...totally automated.


You did it again. algorythems? If you are being sincere, that is some mental block you have. I suggest you quit inflating your ego before you dig a deeper hole.

Honestly, on the surface, it looks like you run some sort of parody site. You cannot seriously criticize my snarky attiitude when you yourself post the following kind of stuff:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')Every morning after my bath, I sit in front of the computer with my toys and look at ENERGYDIGGER. The name is so erotic. I don't know what it means but it makes me feel smart and sexy. It looks pretty."
Candie Plastique, stripper (Atlanta, Georgia)

ENERGYDIGGER must be endowed with a big rig, indeed.
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Re: Michael Lynch - Disputing Peak Oil

Unread postby EnergyDigger » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 09:05:55

Your comments on the final quote inside the ABOUT section of the website are indicative of the sence of humor of people in this industry (which you are obviously not) - this site was developed with the energy industry person in mind - something you cannot understand. You obviously have no sense of humor and little ability to develop one i am sure.

No more replies on this issue - I am bored with your ignorance.
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Re: Michael Lynch - Disputing Peak Oil

Unread postby Brasso » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 09:23:11

Hi Energy Digger - I shouldn't let folks rattle you, just click the 'Ignore' button! Problem solved...
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Re: Michael Lynch - Disputing Peak Oil

Unread postby EnergyDigger » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 09:36:00

thanks, I didn't really see the ignore button, I will use that - I don't normally participate in forums but wanted to see a forum in action so I could build one in my own website - I got to reading the posts and began participating a little - I will hang around as long as it is civil and interesting but I almost clicked off this site permenantly this morning - your note has encouraged me to stay on and watch - thanks... not rattled, just a little setback i guess, in my position, I do not have people ever challenge my authority or my "skillsets" so it was a little different for me to hear something like that - in this annonymous format it is easy to do though so I should not be suprised by insolence and ignorance being weilded. I am just not used to it.

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Re: Michael Lynch - Disputing Peak Oil

Unread postby seahorse2 » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 11:10:57

WHT,

First, Energydigger is appropriately posting on the Lynch forum and now on the Saudi production forum. ED comments are adding facts which undermine the optimism expressed by many like Lynch that believe, for whatever reason, more oil and gas will be produced.

Second, WHT, you're out-of-line. I've been on these boards for two years now. I have watched your posts. You don't discuss or debate, you always make things personal. At first, I thought you ability to model would greatly add to the debate, but that ability is lost in your uncalled for anger, which I can't understand. If you are educated, please behave yourself like you are. Points of view can be shared without hostility. There's no reason for your hostility.
You have attacked Energydigger for no reason and without basis. It adds nothing to this debate.

Further, you are a peak oil pessimist. So is Energydigger, so why are you attacking someone that share's your pessimism? Makes me think you've gone nuts. If you do have anything to add to the peak oil debate, no one will listen, bc you have turned them off.

I would hope the moderators would seriously consider admonishing you in some way and if you don't stop, ban you from the board. I've never advocated anyone being banned. I even stood up for the infamous JohnDenver and others. But your diatribes are out of line.
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Re: Michael Lynch - Disputing Peak Oil

Unread postby Zardoz » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 11:29:45

WHT, a quick question:

You write E.D. off because he mis-spelled "algorithm".

Well, rockdoc just mis-spelled "despair", so are you going to add him to your list as well?

(BTW, rockdoc, why do you think E.D.'s posts are off-topic? That's hard to understand.)
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Re: Michael Lynch - Disputing Peak Oil

Unread postby Cyrus » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 12:22:35

Please move all personal attacks to the "Hall of Flames" section of the forum. Thanks!

{Close- off topic posts moved to open discussion- jato}
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Re: Disputing Peak Oil-Off topic

Unread postby WebHubbleTelescope » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 23:12:43

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Re: Michael Lynch - Disputing Peak Oil

Unread postby PolestaR » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 07:11:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyDigger', 'I') beg your pardon sir but you are wrong - your arrogant attitude presumes that there are not people out there who can custom program and that I am lieing about my work - "My rather limp skillset" is this: I taught engineering level programming at a major university in the 80's and your foolish comments should not go unchallenged - this is custom coded algorythems that collect, score and distinguish between different stories across many news XML services around the globe - it even deletes duplicate news storys about the same topic that ultimately appear in different news feeds daily so there are never 2 stories on the same issue - the fuzzy logic algorythems are not unlike the search engines news services that throw out duplicate stories that appear on the same story in different news feeds...totally automated.

I have turned on my scoring, keywords & key phrases output for a few hours today just for you - have a look at the website again at EnergyDigger.com - you might change your mind - also, PeakOil.com was impressed enough with it to place it on the news links site at: http://www.peakoil.com/gate.html?name=W ... link&cid=4

EnergyDigger.com is over 20,000 lines of custom VBS script that took 6 months to write and test - try to mimic this site if you are so sure it is an easy thing to re-produce and show me I am producing something easily replicated - you should be able to have it up on the web today from the sound of your rhetoric - I will be waiting to see your link to this - show all these people how you have me cornered.

Sounds like you are a real smart guy - Go flatter yourself somewhere else.


20000 lines of VBS is nothing, that's like a weeks work if that. If you want to sound impressive on this forum and get people to come to your site, then you need to at least approach an adult level of spelling and punctuation. Sorry.. but spelling "sense" as "sence" reminds me of a teenager script kiddy (which goes well with you knowing VBS).
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Re: Michael Lynch - Disputing Peak Oil

Unread postby Doly » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 08:23:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '
')20000 lines of VBS is nothing, that's like a weeks work if that. If you want to sound impressive on this forum and get people to come to your site, then you need to at least approach an adult level of spelling and punctuation. Sorry.. but spelling "sense" as "sence" reminds me of a teenager script kiddy (which goes well with you knowing VBS).


Doing 20,000 lines of code in 40 hours of work (which is what is normally considered a working week) would give 500 lines an hour, or 8.3 lines a minute. You can type 8.3 lines a minute, but code it? I doubt it.

And this same guy seems to have shown perfect spelling in other posts... so maybe he doesn't bother with spelling when he's writing fast.
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Re: Disputing Peak Oil-Off topic

Unread postby WebHubbleTelescope » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 21:56:12

[cricket mode off]

Frequent visitors to PeakOil.com don't appreciate getting the bull-rush foisted on them. We have been lied to over the years by big oil, our government, Wall Street suits, and religious dominionists. And I get castigated for showing some cynicism. Rich irony that.

So the guy claimed to teach programming at a major university. One thing that I have learned is that the best developers are lazy. A news aggregator like he claims to create from an "algorythem" are a dime a dozen. The lazy software developer is not going to waste 6 months of time writing 20,000 lines of Visual Basic Script (not plain VB?). Unless he wants to sell his great technology as a standalone product, he is going to download a news aggregator off the net and configure it to do a good-enough job for the task at hand. I would suggest to my peers that we fire anybody creating a 30,000 line "science project" like that where I work.

Somebody said this argument looks like an engineering pissing contest. Well, no it is actually a reverse-pissing contest. Nobody, myself included, get wowed by vaporous claims. If E.D.'s software stuff is so good, then he should put it up on SourceForge and contribute to the commons. Cripes, all the statistical models of oil depletion that I have written are released as open source, available for improvement or criticism -- I really don't care -- as long as we all can work together without fear of being scammed once again. And EnergyDigger, in my eyes, appears to teeter on the edge of scamming us. Look what he wrote: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyDigger', 'T')he fact the Dick Cheney ran Halliburton doesn't make him a bad guy, it makes him experienced and provides a grounded base of understanding of the problems we are facing. I have met him personally and worked for him as well - he is a level headed and competant person whom I would say understands the situation very well.
For the cynical among us, that testimonial should really give us grounds for dismissing everything he says. Are Cheney and BushCo really "good guys" in our nation's path forward?

If EnergyDigger really knew Cheney and claims to have worked for him, he should be spilling all the beans he can on Cheney, like what was in the "Secret Energy Plan" that Cheney worked on with executives from Enron and elsewhere. Now that would be a good start at a web site -- much, much better than creating some rinky-dink news aggregator that no one in their right mind should be impressed with. Remember, another famous engineering criteria is Garbage In leads to Garbage Out.
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Re: Disputing Peak Oil-Off topic

Unread postby EnergyDigger » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 22:18:57

I am still waiting for you to reproduce my work so easily - a lot of talk but no action - sounds like a weak mind.... EnergyDigger.com is original and you can produce nothing like it out on the web right now - YOU are hardly capable of reproducing it.

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something more pleasant

Unread postby EnergyDigger » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 22:49:48

Here are a couple of fun photos of Arabian Company Drilling rig #3 circa 1999 - this is an intermediate development field about 100 miles from Dhahran, Saudi Arabia.

http://www.energydigger.com/images/rigs/adc3-2.jpg

http://www.energydigger.com/images/rigs/adc3-1.jpg

The following is Santa Fe 174 - the little guy out front is my water well controller - he lives in that tent for 2 years at a time with a one month break to go back to India to see his family. His name is Rash.

http://www.energydigger.com/images/rigs/SF174-7.jpg
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Re: Michael Lynch - Disputing Peak Oil

Unread postby PolestaR » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 23:10:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '
')20000 lines of VBS is nothing, that's like a weeks work if that. If you want to sound impressive on this forum and get people to come to your site, then you need to at least approach an adult level of spelling and punctuation. Sorry.. but spelling "sense" as "sence" reminds me of a teenager script kiddy (which goes well with you knowing VBS).


Doing 20,000 lines of code in 40 hours of work (which is what is normally considered a working week) would give 500 lines an hour, or 8.3 lines a minute. You can type 8.3 lines a minute, but code it? I doubt it.

And this same guy seems to have shown perfect spelling in other posts... so maybe he doesn't bother with spelling when he's writing fast.


I have coded 24000 lines of C++ in a week (62 hours). VBS which requires less "skill", if I can put it that way, is easier to write in. The problems you solve with VBS are typically easier ones. When working with PHP it is very easy to notch up 5000 lines of code in a day, PHP is comparable to VBS for web work.

I don't care if his other posts are fine or if he spell checks them or whatever. If you "forget" that "sense" isn't spelled "sence" or algorithm is spelt how it is, I think it says a lot about the education of someone. Not necessarily their intelligence.
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Re: Disputing Peak Oil-Off topic

Unread postby WebHubbleTelescope » Sat 01 Jul 2006, 00:08:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyDigger', 'I') am still waiting for you to reproduce my work so easily - a lot of talk but no action - sounds like a weak mind.... EnergyDigger.com is original and you can produce nothing like it out on the web right now - YOU are hardly capable of reproducing it.

Yes, welcome indeed.
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I would reproduce it by means of a news aggregator, like the guy at an energy site does here:
http://www.7gen.com/aggregator/categories

Or a combination of a news aggregator (feedburner) and a link collector (del.ici.ous) like they do at this biodiesel site:
http://www.goodgrease.com/

And use those in conjunctionwith the Google News reader which aggregates quite well IMO.

Interesting, when I tried looking up "feedster", I subconsciously typed in "feedburner", and , lo and behold, feedburner is also a news aggregator.

There are possibly more news aggregators out there than web sites! No one is much impressed with some miniscule second-order improvements on layout and avoiding duplicates. If it looks like a duck ...

I suppose for your next demonstration of software coding prowess, you will attempt to create a Wiki from scratch to add to the family of Wikis already out there.
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