[Riddick]

100 miles with 4 ounces. Revolutionary, unfortunately our government will never allow it to happen. An even more compelling reason why our current idiotic administration and its lunatic pre-emptive strike policy needs to go. I find it incredibly ironic that the military wants to develop Hummers that use this engine. Unbelievable.

http://www.wimp.com/fuelwater/

[TheTurtle]

Peak Water?

[markam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat do P.O.'s have to say about this?

[Riddick]

Yeah, what if it's not? Kind of shatters the P.O. reality doesn't it?

[mekrob]

This is absolute BS. Water is not a fuel. It is not a source of energy. That is why we use it to fight fires!!! He's uses a massive battery to split up the water into hydrogen and then burning the hydrogen. So he's not using water as a fuel, just the hydrogen of the water as a 'carrier' of the fuel. It would be much more efficient to just use his battery. He probably could have gone 200 miles for the amount of electricity that he used to break up that 4 ounces of water. But he'd rather be a dumbass and get his name in the papers and face on the news. Good for him.

[markam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')eah, what if it's not? Kind of shatters the P.O. reality doesn't it?

[killJOY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ater is not a fuel. It is not a source of energy. That is why we use it to fight fires!!!

[Riddick]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', 'A')nd if the obvious doesn't sway him, what will???

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Riddick', '.')..And you shitheads wonder why I haven't posted anything in over a year.

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Riddick', 'Y')eah, what if it's not? Kind of shatters the P.O. reality doesn't it?

[markam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Riddick', 'Y')eah, what if it's not? Kind of shatters the P.O. reality doesn't it?

[mekrob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Riddick', '1')00 miles with 4 ounces. Revolutionary, unfortunately our government will never allow it to happen. An even more compelling reason why our current idiotic administration and its lunatic pre-emptive strike policy needs to go. I find it incredibly ironic that the military wants to develop Hummers that use this engine. Unbelievable.

http://www.wimp.com/fuelwater/

[Riddick]

I've been a member longer than all three of you. Do some research into my posts. I've worked for our so-called wonderful govt. And I actually believe that P.O. is real.

What I don't need is to post a few things and then get attacked for them, even if they've been covered before.

Do you clowns do this to newbies too? What a way to welcome new people that might or might not know everything about physics, science and maybe on the fence about P.O.

The test is complete. Nothing has changed on this site except the addition of a few more assholes.

[azreal60]

I would say it is long exposure to people just trolling away with dumb ideas that has people ready with stock answers to their questions. It's just, come on, if you post something dumb, be prepared to be thought dumb. The few times I've made a dumb ass remark, I at least had the politeness to blush about it.

That, and Mekrob is correct, you wheren't asking for opinions about weither that was correct or not, you where asking people to go on a Bush bashing fest. While I'm always up for that, at least bash the man for the things he's actually responsible for, not fairyland nonsense.

Long and the short, if they thought you where just making an honest mistake, I think your reception would have been a bit gentler. I've seen people come in here and post junk, and they at least got the chance to be corrected before people brought out the phasers set on kill. You however as you said have been on this site long enough to know better. Which is why you got the response you got.

However, I do think he has a point. Unless the person is obviously trolling guys and gals, do try to at least make an attempt to reason with them. Only when they start sputtering denials of reality should you bring out the shotguns.

[killJOY]

Riddick, this forum doesn't amount to a hill of beans in the great scheme of things. You need to develop a thick skin or you're going to waste psychic energy over nothing.

[Riddick]

I wasn't trolling. I did it to prove a point. I remember participating in a bunch of threads that revolved around the topic of "getting P.O. into the mainstream" or something like that; and, there were a lot of us that wanted to "spread the word" so to speak but we all found that most sheeple looked at the subject in a shaky light: as in difficult to understand; or the majority of people believe that there's plenty of oil, the CEO's are just war profiteering; or my favorite - "they'll just switch over to something else". We also found that a lot of people seemed to associate the P.O. crowd with conspiracy theorists, so there was a lot of resistance that way too.

My point? Although I didn't come out and say, "what are your opinions, please?", the title of the topic was in the form of a question. The immediate response was to swarm and destroy. I couldn't help but think that if a new person posted something like that, they would probably never come back if that was the response they got. No one likes a know-it-all and that goes double for a know-it-all who degrades a person who the know-it-all thinks isn't as informed as they are.

I've actually had acquaintances in the past that approached me about P.O. and I've pointed them to this site. They had a few questions and opinions but got berated in the same manor. Now they think P.O. is a scam and think that anyone who is a P.Oiler is a nut. So much for spreading the word to the mainstream.

Sorry to step on anyone's toes but it sure didn't take long for some of us to go from 0-90 in the blink of an eye. Yes I fanned the fires in a hurry too, but if you read the post from the beginning, no one offered any scientific points on why this wouldn't work (they just said it was horsehit and then moved on - I learned in college that anyone can have an opinion but if it is not backed up by some facts then the opinion is horseshit too). I could've done a thread search for this but how many people would do that (especially new people)?

Maybe it's because we all know how critical the situation has become and we're feeling helpless to act, thus we're hyper-sensitive to the issue. Maybe it's because some of us like to rip into a stranger once in awhile to blow off some steam....from the safety of our computers.

Peace

[killJOY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') did it to prove a point. I remember participating in a bunch of threads that revolved around the topic of "getting P.O. into the mainstream" or something like that; and, there were a lot of us that wanted to "spread the word" so to speak but we all found that most sheeple looked at the subject in a shaky light

[mekrob]

Riddick, if you were doing it as an experiment in order to find out how we'd react to a newbie asking this question, then you should have gotten a new name. Because we were able to (or at least I was) see you've been a member for so long and with 400+ posts, you were obviously informed of PO and all of the science all with it, or you could have at least gotten a good handle of it. That's why we were so harsh. You should have known about the science and just laughed at this idea. If you were a newbie or pretending to be with a new name, then there would be less attacks and flame going your way and instead much more help. Go over to the site where a new guy introduces himself and see how helpful people are. I'm more than willing to help a newbie, but if someone with 400+ posts starts to put up BS like hydrogen or whatno, then of course I'm going to attack his stupidity.

Sorry for the miscommunication.

[markam]

So does this mean you don't want to bet me about whether we will have water cars?

[Riddick]

LOL. As crazy as you look in your picture. Forget it.