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Will the Arts influence Peak Oil?

Unread postby oilfreeandhappy » Wed 22 Feb 2006, 15:24:21

Usually, when there are issues that drastically effect our world, the Arts come to the forefront. In the US, this was the case during the Civil Rights Movement, the Vietnam War, and other historic milestones. This is important, because many artists are very effective and popular motivators.

Will musicians, artists, poets, cartoonists, and others start amplifying Peak Oil to the forefront? Undoubtedly, this is already occurring to some extent.
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Re: Will the Arts influence Peak Oil?

Unread postby Cobra_Strike » Wed 22 Feb 2006, 17:19:26

I have a feeling that the art will mirror the terro and pain that I expect to come of this crisis. Emotion has forever been a strong subject matter. People will key into the emotion, and there will be images of riots...food lines, gas shortages. Miles of farmland taken over by endless rows of corn....
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Re: Will the Arts influence Peak Oil?

Unread postby rogerhb » Wed 22 Feb 2006, 18:25:10

Only oil paintings.
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Re: Will the Arts influence Peak Oil?

Unread postby coyote » Wed 22 Feb 2006, 22:26:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'O')nly oil paintings.

Good thing you can make oil paints from walnut oil. :)

Doomers interested in this topic should check out artwork done during tragic times... Black Plague, Irish Potato Famine, etc. Creepy stuff.
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Re: Will the Arts influence Peak Oil?

Unread postby AnniCat » Wed 22 Feb 2006, 23:08:52

It's already happening in film and literature. I think that it will be an extremely prolific time, since so many are dismally unprepared. The shock of it will certainly inspire people in all disciplines of creativity.
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Re: Will the Arts influence Peak Oil?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 22 Feb 2006, 23:25:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('coyote', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'O')nly oil paintings.

Good thing you can make oil paints from walnut oil. :)
Yes but flax gives us linseed oil, plus you can make linen from the plant. Handy if there's a collapse. It might seem groovy to go around nekid, but I think people are still going to want to wear clothes, at least to stay warm. You can't wear walnuts.
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Re: Will the Arts influence Peak Oil?

Unread postby coyote » Wed 22 Feb 2006, 23:56:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('coyote', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'O')nly oil paintings.

Good thing you can make oil paints from walnut oil. :)
Yes but flax gives us linseed oil, plus you can make linen from the plant. Handy if there's a collapse. It might seem groovy to go around nekid, but I think people are still going to want to wear clothes, at least to stay warm. You can't wear walnuts.

Yeah, the trouble with linseed oil is that you need a turp solvent to clean your brushes, made out of... yep you guessed it...

Check out M. Graham paints... they have a walnut-oil based paint that doesn't require synthetic solvents. (Weber does make a natural turpenoid, supposedly from citrus, but I've never tried it and have no idea how well it works.)
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Re: Will the Arts influence Peak Oil?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 23 Feb 2006, 00:08:21

Can't you make turpentine from pine sap or something? Seriously, though, if there is a collapse, the only art, for awhile, is likely to be bone sculpture/ornaments.
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Re: Will the Arts influence Peak Oil?

Unread postby coyote » Thu 23 Feb 2006, 00:22:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'C')an't you make turpentine from pine sap or something? Seriously, though, if there is a collapse, the only art, for awhile, is likely to be bone sculpture/ornaments.

Pine sap... hmm that sounds familiar, but I'm not sure. Have to look into that.

One of the things I plan to stockpile are pigments to make my own paint, and pastel sticks (okay that's two things :P ), both of which will last a good long time if you can keep them dry and in the dark. And a boatload of sealed pastel paper. I don't plan on giving up my hobby forever if I can possibly help it. Might sound silly to some here, but I believe that the things that keep you sane are just as important as the things that keep you breathing.

(Can we fit it into the rule of threes for survival? Three minutes without air, Three hours without shelter, three days without water, three weeks without food, three months without companionship, three years without art... :) )
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Re: Will the Arts influence Peak Oil?

Unread postby Doly » Thu 23 Feb 2006, 07:30:16

Three hours without shelter? Not unless the environment is incredibly harsh. Three days sounds about right.
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Re: Will the Arts influence Peak Oil?

Unread postby peaker_2005 » Thu 23 Feb 2006, 09:26:45

Personally I think it'll be more the other way around - Peak Oil influencing the arts. I myself have already written poems on my blog, which can be found in the signature that I don't always use...

coyote: the art one really isn't necessary - I need to remember to pack a crapload of pencils when I bail. And a sharpener.
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Re: Will the Arts influence Peak Oil?

Unread postby coyote » Thu 23 Feb 2006, 12:35:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'T')hree hours without shelter? Not unless the environment is incredibly harsh. Three days sounds about right.

My understanding: three hours without shelter is correct, and a pretty standard part of the 'rule of threes' of survivalist theory. Unless you can safely assume ideal external conditions (which, of course, you generally can't...), then shelter is the very first thing you need to worry about (after air of course). Then water, then food, etc.

(Edit: maybe 'shelter or clothing' would be a good way to put it.)
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Re: Will the Arts influence Peak Oil?

Unread postby eastbay » Thu 23 Feb 2006, 12:41:08

I wonder how long it'll be before humans are once again painting pictures of popular animals and life scenes on cave walls?
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Re: Will the Arts influence Peak Oil?

Unread postby oilfreeandhappy » Thu 23 Feb 2006, 16:06:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peaker_2005', 'P')ersonally I think it'll be more the other way around - Peak Oil influencing the arts. I myself have already written poems on my blog, which can be found in the signature that I don't always use...

coyote: the art one really isn't necessary - I need to remember to pack a crapload of pencils when I bail. And a sharpener.


Nice poem. I really enjoyed "Six Billion and One"...
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Re: Will the Arts influence Peak Oil?

Unread postby rogerhb » Thu 23 Feb 2006, 16:17:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'I') wonder how long it'll be before humans are once again painting pictures of popular animals and life scenes on cave walls?


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