[Schweinshaxe]

Have you ever been in a real traditional survival situation?

Not one of them American survivalism things where you dig trenches around your house and defend it with machine guns, but the orthodox "Lofty" Wiseman style survival situation where you whip out your survival kit and start to build bear traps.

If you haven't been in such a situation yourself, maybe you know someone who has. If you don't even know someone who has survived on Dandelions alone for months, maybe you've at least read about a situation where a survival kit has actually been used to save a life or two.

It would be very interesting to see how common it is to have your ass saved by a tin box filled with a compass, a wire saw and a condom.

Before you say that there are many stories like this and that I'm a stupid German, please give me a link or a reference.

Thank you for your cooperation!

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', 'N')ot one of them American survivalism things where you dig trenches around your house and defend it with machine guns

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', 'N')ot one of them American survivalism things where you dig trenches around your house and defend it with machine guns

[holmes]

http://www.trackerschool.com/

[PrairieMule]

Eleven years ago I got lost on a day hike in the Ouachitas near Big Fork, Arkansas. I did not have a "kit" with me at the time but I did have a polar tec fleece top, good boots, a pair of oakley sunglasses, and a canteen. I hiked in circles and ended up on a mountain saddle 3 miles away from my truck. I had no food but kept hydrated from local springs. At nightfall I figured I would save my energy and try again in the morning. I burrowed under a dead log collapsed on a big rock and made a lean- to shelter. I covered myself with oak leaves and froze my ass off in 23 degrees F.

The body does weird things when physically exhausted, exposed and hungry. I started to hallucinating and saw weird stuff. The next morning I started to yell for help which is what I should have done in the first place. Immediately someone honked their car horn when I yelled for help. On the way down I crossed through somebody's woods and crossed 2 rottweilers defending their turf. I did not have a gun but I threw rocks which scared them off. A nice lady gave me a ride back to my truck. I left my truck at 12pm and arrived back at 9am.

THINGS I DID RIGHT:Stayed hydrated, yelled for help, built shelter, I went through old SNL skits in my mind to keep my spirits up.

STUPID THINGS:Thinking I was bullet proof when I was 24 years old, not telling anyone where I was, and of course no gear, food, or heavier clothing.

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'h')ttp://www.trackerschool.com/

[PrairieMule]

One more thing, don't eat pine needles. The sap will just make you sick.

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'E')leven years ago I got lost on a day hike in the Ouachitas near Big Fork, Arkansas. I did not have a "kit" with me at the time but I did have a polar tec fleece top, good boots, a pair of oakley sunglasses, and a canteen. I hiked in circles and ended up on a mountain saddle 3 miles away from my truck. I had no food but kept hydrated from local springs. At nightfall I figured I would save my energy and try again in the morning. I burrowed under a dead log collapsed on a big rock and made a lean- to shelter. I covered myself with oak leaves and froze my ass off in 23 degrees F.

The body does weird things when physically exhausted, exposed and hungry. I started to hallucinating and saw weird stuff. The next morning I started to yell for help which is what I should have done in the first place. Immediately someone honked their car horn when I yelled for help. On the way down I crossed through somebody's woods and crossed 2 rottweilers defending their turf. I did not have a gun but I threw rocks which scared them off. A nice lady gave me a ride back to my truck. I left my truck at 12pm and arrived back at 9am.

THINGS I DID RIGHT:Stayed hydrated, yelled for help, built shelter, I went through old SNL skits in my mind to keep my spirits up.

STUPID THINGS:Thinking I was bullet proof when I was 24 years old, not telling anyone where I was, and of course no gear, food, or heavier clothing.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', 'T')hat's a pretty looking WW1 machine gun and a couple of Sauerkraut-burping Germans in that link

[PrairieMule]

I kept drifting in and out of sleep. I saw a cloud shaped like a a seagull with a star on top of it . Could have been interpreted as a Angel with a halo. If I ran with that story I probably could have been a guest on the Oprah Winfey show or Art Bell. I still had enough of my wits to realize I was cold, exausted, and hungry to realize I was hallucinating.

[PrairieMule]

SPG-

I understand how the lactic acid built up in my muscles from 8 hours of hiking, how sleep depravation can effects the mind, exposure to below freezing temps can put a body into shock, and empty stomach makes things worse.

Medically speaking what happens to a person to make them hallucinate?

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', '
')
Medically speaking what happens to a person to make them hallucinate?

[J-Rod]

Well, haven't been in the situation myself, but this show is really good imo.

http://www.survivorman.ca/

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('J-Rod', 'W')ell, haven't been in the situation myself, but this show is really good imo.

http://www.survivorman.ca/

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'M')edically speaking what happens to a person to make them hallucinate?

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'M')edically speaking what happens to a person to make them hallucinate?

[hotsacks]

http://www.survivorman.ca/[/quote]

Well as I may have indicated, I don't want links to a fat, inbred fuck who's playing survival in front of the cameras for a week either.

Come on people! There must have been at least one more person except PM who has survived without McDonalds for a day!

If it was done with a survival kit, and it's explained how the kit was used, it's a bonus...[/quote]

Since he is a neighbour,I can swear that Les Stroud is neither fat nor inbred.He is,however,becoming extremely rich and looking a little foolish squatting out in a swamp in a solar powered yurt with wife and kids.Local people here callled him Survivorman long before he became famous,largely because of his fearsome wife,a drunken Valkyrie from whom he has often to hide for extended periods.
Since he often advises Canadian military on survivalism,I'll ask him about the strange hallucinations among Swedish bivouacers.Do you have any steel plates in your head that might excite,say,northern light activity?Details such as these would facilitate prognosis.

[Laurasia]

Well, in the sixties I walked the Lyke Wake Walk across the Yorkshire Moors in winter with a small group. We walked steadily for nineteen and a half hours. During that time I drank a small amount of water and crunched a few glucose tablets I'd been advised to bring. After walking about twelve hours I "hit the wall" and almost fainted. I was revived by a swig of brandy that one of the guys had brought. Without the brandy I would have caused severe hardship on the rest of the group, especially since we were hit by a sleetstorm later that evening. The point I'm trying to make is that, between us, we brought the right emergency supplies. Incidentally I always have brandy around now!

Oh and I started hallucinating too - I saw a gentleman in a top hat and tails playing a grand piano in the middle of a field!

Regards,

L.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', 'I') want to know what controls the neurons. i want to know what controls the things that control the neurons. I want to know what happens on the quantum mechanical level.

[AmericanEmpire]

So one of the things I can look forward to post crash is hallucinating when I'm starving huh?