[CaptainJackSparrow]

Multiculturalism has betrayed the English, Archbishop says

Britiain's first black Archbishop has made a powerful attack on multiculturalism, urging English people to reclaim their national identity.

The Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu, said that too many people were embarrassed about being English. “Multiculturalism has seemed to imply, wrongly for me, let other cultures be allowed to express themselves but do not let the majority culture at all tell us its glories, its struggles, its joys, its pains,” he said.

He called for the English to rediscover their cultural identity by properly marking celebrations such as St George’s Day on April 23.

Continued: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFrien ... -2,00.html

[Jake_old]

Thing is we've never celebrated St Georges day. I'm all for making a new national holiday and have a big party, but it's not something we've lost.

We don't do this sort of thing, we are good at moaning a griping, when things are good we gripe, when things are bad we gripe.

We yearn for the good old days of black and white TV and rationing.

Being able to leave our doors unlocked, because we've got nothin worth nickin.

ah them were the days

[PenultimateManStanding]

From the news I'm reading, England has very dark, dire days ahead. Their coal supplies are good for a few years. Looks like it's lights out for the Land of Chaucer.

[Jake_old]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'F')rom the news I'm reading, England has very dark, dire days ahead. Their coal supplies are good for a few years. Looks like it's lights out for the Land of Chaucer.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedJake', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'F')rom the news I'm reading, England has very dark, dire days ahead. Their coal supplies are good for a few years. Looks like it's lights out for the Land of Chaucer.

[Wildwell]

No, only from the point of view the economy was changing from an industrial economy to a service one with the first stages of globalisation. And actually the UK has most of the coal in Western Europe along with Germany, 200 years worth to be exact.

I think the whole multi-culturalism thing is overblown. Sure there's a few asians and white middle class PC types making prats of themselves right now, but in general there isn't that many racial tensions, it's just something the press like to blow up every now and again. Much like the way they have a go at the police, army, fire service, civil service, railway, nuclear industry and others - a lot of hot air to sell papers.

[PenultimateManStanding]

I base what I said on the The Oil Drum. Just a few years of coal left in England. Not a good scenario. God Bless and God Save Merry Old England.

[Jake_old]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedJake', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'F')rom the news I'm reading, England has very dark, dire days ahead. Their coal supplies are good for a few years. Looks like it's lights out for the Land of Chaucer.

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

Thats' like saying "Man smashes self over the head with club hammer. Club hammer betrays man."

You'd think we'd have the sense to realize these things were a bad idea to begin with.

[Jake_old]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Battle_Scarred_Galactico', 'T')hats' like saying "Man smashes self over the head with club hammer. Club hammer betrays man."

You'd think we'd have the sense to realize these things were a bad idea to begin with.

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

"Ever see the documentary stupidity?"

No, but a lot of the time it feels like I've got a front row seat.

I agree that we probably won't learn.

(I wasn't refering to any of your posts with the club hammer line. Just the phrase multiculturalism betrays English.)

[Jake_old]

sorry, forgot what the thread was about.

know what you mean about the front row seat though, sometimes its funny, sometimes painful.

[Lokutus]

Immigration works best when the new arrivals believe in "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". Immigration starts to break-down when the new arrivals show no interest in integrating into the new society and try to live as they did back home.

[PenultimateManStanding]

The 9/10ths thing was not based on The Oil Drum, but rather on Catton's book, Overshoot and his analysis of ghost acreage. The small endowment of English coal is what I read at The Oil Drum. Here in the US, practically the entire state of Illinois is underlayed by a layer of high btu coal. We have huge amounts of coal, and I have no doubt that it will be dug up and exploited, Kunstler's reservations notwithstanding. BTW, Kunstler pointed out that the Nazis used coal to power their war machine with the 'benefit' of slave labor, and suggested that the US can't do that because of it's democratic traditions. If the populace is threatened with starvation, what's to stop a movement to slave labor here is the US? The writing is on the wall, so to speak.

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

"If the populace is threatened with starvation, what's to stop a movement to slave labor here is the US?"

Nothing. It's easy to be agianst it when you have machinery doing your work for you. The nothern states would have been as pro-slavery as the south were it not for idustrialism.

Hell, we have slavery by proxy now even.

[Aaron]

When a smaller group convinces a larger one to do what they say that's not slavery... it's marketing. (& perhaps religion?)

And it's alive & well.