[MicroHydro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you really believe the U.S. government killed 3000 of its own citizens ... and lied about it and invaded Afghanistan as a result of something it did, you ought to leave the country.. because that's so terrible.. so evil, that your tax dollars go in to support it make you complicit in it. if you really believe that, you ought to leave.
- Tucker Carlson on MSNBC

[Carlhole]

Physics is physics and its laws supercede anything enacted by a legislature. So, Dr. Steven E. Jones has said, "I don't go there" regarding the who, what, when, where, why of the events.

If it is established that the towers could NOT have collapsed as they are said to have done so - that explosives are the best explanation - that means that the physicist's job is over and someone else's job has just begun (hopefully).

What you are saying is that since the government couldn't possibly do something this awful, then the physics must be wrong. And that doesn't make sense.

Things just simply need to make sense to some people. Others are happy to ignore laws of nature but to some they stand out glaringly and uncomfortably. That glaring discomfort will not go away - so reasonable explanations for things like the collapse of WTC7 and the actual physics involved in the collapses of the Twin Towers are in order.

It is a scientific argument to explain how the 3 towers must have collapsed. It is a political argument to try to understand why. Tucker Carlson is a talking head on the political side of the 911 discussion. Dr. Steven E. Jones is on the physics side of the discussion. The two are not compatible.

The best thing to do is to investigate the events and address ALL the unanswered questions, first physical then political one step at a time.

[Carlhole]

Whoops! Misread your post.

(nevermind)

[katkinkate]

It's sad really. America used to be the country refugees from oppression used to want to go to, now people are trying to escape from it.

[killJOY]

The only way I, a skeptic of the "official" 9/11 story--though I have no opinion on what actually happened--would "leave" this country is if people like Fucker Carlson develop the 'nads to try to drag me out by my hair (and I have a buzzcut).

Carlson seems incapable of developing a sense of evil. He hasn't read classical drama or Shake-speare or anything else that would teach him that there is nothing--NOTHING--to prevent those in power from inflicting dread on the populous.

Check out his quote again:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you really believe the U.S. government killed 3000 of its own citizens ... and lied about it and invaded Afghanistan as a result of something it did, you ought to leave the country.. because that's so terrible.. so evil

[bobcousins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', 'B')ecause it went off too "without a hitch" for the former to have happened.

[threadbear]

I make no distinction between the concepts of purposely letting it happen and reaping the benefits --organized opportunism with foreknowledge, and actually planning and implementing--conspiracy. It's splitting hairs to differrentiate, imposing too much meaning on technicalities, at the expense of the big picture.

Micro--You did the wisest thing by getting out. But how do you manage to avoid taxes? You must be planning to stay out of the country forever.

[MicroHydro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'I') make no distinction between the concepts of purposely letting it happen and reaping the benefits --organized opportunism with foreknowledge, and actually planning and implementing--conspiracy. It's splitting hairs to differrentiate, imposing too much meaning on technicalities, at the expense of the big picture.

Micro--You did the wisest thing by getting out. But how do you manage to avoid taxes? You must be planning to stay out of the country forever.

[AmericanEmpire]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')evelation 18:4 Then10 I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, so you will not take part in her sins and so you will not receive her plagues, 18:5 because her sins have piled11 up all the way to heaven12 and God has remembered13 her crimes.14 18:6 Repay her the same way she repaid others;15 pay her back double16 corresponding to her deeds. In the cup she mixed, mix double the amount for her. 18:7 As much as17 she exalted herself and lived in sensual luxury,18 to this extent give her torment and grief because she said to herself,19 ‘I rule as queen and am no widow; I will never experience grief!’ 18:8 For this reason, she will experience her plagues20 in a single day: disease,21 mourning,22 and famine, and she will be burned down23 with fire, because the Lord God who judges her is powerful!”