[NEOPO]

How better to "adjust" the situation......

Die Off is only wishful thinking optomistic crap!!!!

We will and are being selectively killed off.
culled - thin the herds - selective breeding - domesticated - Darwins theory reigns supreme!!!!

If "they" see YOU/I/WE as beneficial then we will be allowed to live otherwise "switch off" bitches............nighty night.........nuh nuh nuh!!! buh bye.........

Wanna be doomers with their hope is all it is.

Its the "little things" that kill you tools - us tools - always wanton for more yet never knowing what that more is....................we will get our FILL.......
no label is needed.....we have the cure and it is death.

We cant solve the oil addiction but we can tailor a disease that discriminates or a disease that does not.
Got blue eyes or perhaps brown eyes? we got something for you.....
Have dark or light skin? yeah we have something for that also......

If we can get "good" christians to pass out blankets with small pox to the native americans = germ warfare just imagine what we can do now you cornifuckingcopians!!!!

We are so very smart arent we?
So far removed from the slime from which we first crawled?
So smart we havent a clue and so rich we cant afford to buy a vowel.

Totalitarian agriculture = death to this world.

unequal globalism = slavery.
unequal globalism = murder.
think about that as you drive your Suv or even your new prius to pick up your energy junky kids from their place of mental molding (school).

Murderers.......the horror...........the humanity..............
It is only just and right that an equal horror of equal magnitude is placed upon the lap of luxury.

obesity is an "epidemic" while every 5 seconds someone dies of starvation and that someone is usually a child under the age of 5.

Fuck your debt clocks...........shove them up your indebted enslaved stupid asses and feel good about it as this is what your best interests have gotten you/us/we/i/they/them..............bitches.......whores of the world...........you ride the back of the beast that rides the world and you like it.

settle down now - no need to panic or react now - no need to try anything as it has been proven that all falls to entropy......the downward spiral is the path we must take and I for one embrace our doom.

No need to do a fucking thing now but die.......
"Pray now to your god to your christ"A PERFECT CIRCLE" - as he did this to you in your own mind at least.
Embrace your apathy and relish in your own useless existence.

Chaos is Order and we are but a speck on the wings of a fly hovering over the piece of shit which is matter.

[Jake_old]

And I thought I was a doomer

The DieOff is doom enough for me.

[NEOPO]

This is just the prelude - the first act is about to begin - by all means please stick around even if you can only do so via impalement on a large pike.....
mate....

[Jake_old]

Oh I intend on sticking around, but really, you should avoid making predictions.

I hope you are wrong but I accept you might be right.

If you are right I'll be pissed off that I paid off my debts

[NEOPO]

and pray tell why should one not make predictions???
It only matters when people choose to believe them and/or act upon them.

Why feel bad about paying off your debts - they were yours and nothing is free.

The edge of reason is the sharpest blade.

[Jake_old]

Well put.

If you care about what others think of you, then predictions are a bad idea. If you don't give a crap then predict away.

Why should I do the decent thing when no one else is? Thats why I'd be pissed off for paying off my debts.

I've done it for selfish reasons, not so I can sleep easy at night. I don't want to be a slave.

Edit: I don't much want to be impaled either!

[foodnotlawns]

Go NEOPO!

It is really difficult, day after day, to observe "Business as Usual."

I tried talking to my neighbors, to organize them for peak oil and start a neighborhood gardening collective with a nice, sunny piece of abandoned land, and they were rude and contemptuous. One of them even poured furniture polish on one of my gardens, and chopped down an apple tree.

I used to work as a service technician where I went to people's homes to fix stuff. I saw the true, ugly nature of your average American suburbanite. I can't do justice to describe their mean, petty souls.

But I know that when TSHTF they will have no qualms about killing and eating one another.

I suspect that I should be grateful for the easy abundance of today. When it hits, I will probably miss things like eating regularly.

But the truth is, life as a worker in America in 2005 is miserable and infuriating. Expenses went way up, wages did not. Simple as that.

And you see lots of pigs making it pretty good. When I was a service technician, I saw so many McMansions with SUV's out front, taking up prime farmland. The inhabitants treated me as bad or worse than a plantation slave. Hand on the hip, screaming her lungs out the second I walked in the door with my toolbag, and not stopping until I left, even if it was a successful fix.

When I learned about peak oil and die-off I was like "Yeah, a dream come true! The sooner the better!"

Kill off would be fine, too.

GO NEOPO!

[SinisterBlueCat]

you are pretty handy at playing that death card Neo.

and FNL, what makes you at all sure you will be around to miss things like eating regularly once it hits the fan...?

[foodnotlawns]

I know I'll miss a lot of things about the modern day, like eating regularly. I've been practicing at eating worms and grubs though.

I sure won't miss being an office slave though. I never see my house in daylight, and all day people demand service service service! It's daily psychological torture, and very demeaning.

I clean horse stables too, and it's much nicer. I can't believe people think cleaning stables is a bad job.

I don't think I'd mind foraging for grubs and worms under rotted logs, or making squirrel traps.

I think I'd miss beer and wine very much, which is why I started making it myself, and even planting wheat.

My poor daughter almost never sees her parents. We live quite frugally, and do everything possible to save and earn a bit of extra money here and there, and still, we barely keep up with bills. It's infuriating

[DomusAlbion]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedJake', 'W')hy should I do the decent thing when no one else is? Thats why I'd be pissed off for paying off my debts.

[The_Toecutter]

The real pisser is that all of this downfall could be prevented, by adressing the suffering of billions in poverty and by making our lifestyles more sustainable(not necessarily reducing living standard).

Meanwhile, as we progress on that downslope of the production curve, the oil companies will laugh their way to the bank even more so than they are now. They are in fact the cause of much of the world's suffering historically as well as today, just to make an extra buck...

[bobcousins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Toecutter', 'T')he real pisser is that all of this downfall could be prevented, by adressing the suffering of billions in poverty and by making our lifestyles more sustainable(not necessarily reducing living standard).

[Omnitir]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Toecutter', '
')The real pisser is that all of this downfall could be prevented, by adressing the suffering of billions in poverty and by making our lifestyles more sustainable(not necessarily reducing living standard).

[mgibbons19]

how you feeling today man? be honest.

[Paul64]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Omnitir', 'T')here is no such thing as human nature, and with the right attitudes we can make the world what we want it to be.

[NEOPO]

*makes his way through the recesses of shadows to the dimly lime-lit podium of truth*

I am still here.
I am still very disturbed.

Recently watched rep. Roscoe Bartletts Peak oil presentation to congress and listened to Matt simmons audio interview with Jim Puplava.
Two things I have should have done long ago.

now...Watching most of these TV economists tell the sheeple that everything is fine.
Watching the white house getting caught up in little "white house" lies that equal treason.
Watching a pawn take the fall for the bishop or perhaps even the king himself.
Watching the majority swell upon the producers with paranoia and fingers of blame.
We like playing the game but we never like to lose.
Ahhhh yes it all makes sense now.
The pieces we have fit neatly together although some are indeed still missing.
We will have them all in time.

I realize that we have been here in some form before.
I realize that movements start with 1 and that the sleepers must now awaken.
We indeed have something to overcome after we overcome ourselves.
A common "enemy" of sorts.
It is always in the overcoming as we progress through the limits of matter to our newly quickened state and onward never ending.

Peak oil/hydrocarbon depletion is now the "ring" and by putting it on I am only peering into the "eye of saron".
I had to do this to know it was real.
To bring this new paradigm into perspective.
A person can become insane.
It doesnt matter how you approach it....it is always staring straight back through you.
I will now keep this ring off my hand and in my well sewn pocket of holding.

I may need it again one day to see yet for now I see the path that we must take.

I no longer feel the hatred for my brothers and sisters of the world.
I feel only sadness and shame for our collective greed and ignorance thereof.
I feel a drive to change - to set a good example - a need to help educate and re educate all I encounter regardless of the stigma.
I cannot help those who will not help themselves and through helping themselves they will help everyone

I have come full circle mr gibbons
I am back where I started.
I sought sustainability and found peak oil.
Through Peak oil I am back to sustainability.

Was there ever any doubt???

*lays a red rose on the podium of truth and leaves this forum for the blinding reality that awaits us all .......somewhere outside*

[SupplyConcerns]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'T')his is just the prelude - the first act is about to begin - by all means please stick around even if you can only do so via impalement on a large pike.....
mate....

[Omnitir]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', '
')how you feeling today man? be honest.

[mgibbons19]

That's why he goes by NEO.

We are on to you he says, and hangs up the phone, and walks out into the crowd.

Cue Rage Against the Machine's "Wake Up"

[Teclo]

Close the circle
Someone wants to kill us and control us, and its us!
self-awakening?

like with science you're an observer of reality, and using that have to theorise whats going on behind the scenes
The PTB may be beavering away on diseases to create a die off, or they might just be making ignorant decisions that unintentionally cause the same effect but we're also part of the reality and can influence it

The collective 'we' is all there is against the PTB. The PTB could be anything, aliens, archons, humans representing all kinds of interests. But they all have in common the control of everyone else from the top of the pyramid
Democracy is supposed to be the bottom of the pyramid where we are
Everywhere these pyramids exist and they fight each other, and we get dragged into it. That helps them. Divide and rule

In a doomer scenario above all else need the 'we' whole and united.
Its important to oppose every backward step the PTB take - they will try and break us
Thats why I hate what Tony Blair is doing. He wants us to be scared of terrorism and is irrated by his own populations defiance. He wants to undo the live and let live approach which a great many cling to and believe in. Idiot can't see its only this that holds the nation together
Shit, if every individual behaved like the PTB did we would start killing each other
Even if we can't win its better to believe you can then you can enjoy the ride. Thats why I'm a pagan christian anarcho-communist

Teclo