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Post them here, the guy is quite good:












Here part of the famous 'Stoned Again' series:

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Now this is 60's material. Try 'writing cartoons stoned':

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One of the main things I like about Crumb is how he handles an ink pen. He has a true feel for line and texture, the best in my opinion since Van Gogh. Now the themes are funny messed up polymorphous perverse neurotic substance abusin' foolery i.e. The Sixties. But the Artistry of his drawing skills is delightful.

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The humor is irresistable (well, for some people anyway):

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Another element was the satire of American Culture with it's absurd advertising which you can see with that last creamy aerosol bit. This was right in tune with the whole 'counter-culture' movement. The irony of history was when the counter-culture was co-opted by the advertisers who used Sixties Cool to sell crap to aging hippie consumers, thereby neutralizing the whole rebellious attitude. Pathetic really.

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Look at the details of the first one, The Mendocino Grapevine. The little bush at the base of the tree, drawn with finesse. Look at the outraged treehugger chick (this could be where the term 'treehugger' came from). Her nipples stick out of her blouse because R. Crumb is sexually obsessed (like the rest of us).

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Keep it up, PMS - this stuff is wunderbar (and so nostalgic). Have you got the cover of "Yellow Dog Comix"?

- Ed

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Zap Comics was an 'underground' publication. Here's a good write-up about them in CounterPunch http://www.counterpunch.org/jacobs03122005.html $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') regained some of that obsession the day I saw the first three ZAP Comix in a head shop in Germany. For those of you unfamiliar with ZAPs, they were the best of the underground comix that were published in the late 1960s and throughout the 1970s. R. Crumb, Denis Kitchen, Spain, S. Clay Wilson, Moscosco, Robert Williams and so on-all of the best artists filled the pages of these psychedelic, mind-bending, rude and antiestablishment exercises in expression. Part of the rebellion against the moralistic Comics Code that mainstream comics had to adhere to, underground commix laughed in the face of this attempt by the puritans to regulate what people could read. If someone was looking for a way to be offended, they could find it in ZAP. For the rest of us, ZAPs and their sister publications were cutting social and political criticism. Whether it was R. Crumb drawing and writing a story about Whiteman, the screwed-up representative of male middle-class America or S. Clay Wilson sharing his intricately drawn tales of brutality and excess among bikers and pirates, these comix rearranged the often-dull world we live in. They weren't light reading and sometimes not very pretty, but neither is the daily news. At least comix are fun.

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I saw a movie once with Jon Voight about a prison break. I think it was called Runaway Train but I'm not sure. Voight played a con, brilliantly, who was on the run in a train. There was a female trainworker who called him an 'animal'. He said, 'No, Worse!'. The point being one that has long been noted that humans are worse than animals. The underground comics of the 1960's were making that point about human perversity and depravity. We are worse than the animals. (and better, but that point is fading these days, and certainly had no place in the 60's comics).

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This one, "A Short History of America", is highly pertinent to our common interest. It's amazing... in twelve frames, it can make the reevalute the world around you. Incidently, Kunstler links to it from his site.

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It's heartbreaking, but what can you do?