[PenultimateManStanding]

Peace in the Middle East requires an acceptance of the existance of Isreal. The Palestinians need to grow up. They are clearly motivated by envy and rage against the more advanced capabilities of the people of Isreal who have shown the way in developing a relatively unfertile land. The Palestinians need to discover humility and learn the way out of their nightmare. Trashing the greenhouses that were purchased for them shows the world that they do not deserve respect.

[I_Like_Plants]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'P')eace in the Middle East requires an acceptance of the existance of Isreal. The Palestinians need to grow up. They are clearly motivated by envy and rage against the more advanced capabilities of the people of Isreal who have shown the way in developing a relatively unfertile land. The Palestinians need to discover humility and learn the way out of their nightmare. Trashing the greenhouses that were purchased for them shows the world that they do not deserve respect.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', '
')The greenhouse thing dismayed me too, then I tried THINKING and realized, the greenhouses may have been dependent on water Israel has shut off, energy Israel will not supply, etc.

I look forward to seeing the Pals push the Isn't-Real-ies into the sea. Any true ecologist will agree.

[I_Like_Plants]

So, taking a bath in the sea before getting a plane ticket out would kill The Chosen? Jumping Frenchmen, they dislike bathing that much?

No, when they say 'push into the sea' I've always envisioned whittling away at Isn't-Real until it's a thin strip along the seashore, then like most ephemeral seashore towns, tourism goes down and ppl leave.

I am on the side of the Pals, history is on the side of the Pals, and Mother Earth is on the side of the pals. Isn't-Real doesn't realize when they are busy uprooting generations-old almond and olive groves owned by peaceful Pal farmers, they are digging their own grave. It's the age-old story, saw off the branch you are sitting on........

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'S')o, taking a bath in the sea before getting a plane ticket out would kill The Chosen? Jumping Frenchmen, they dislike bathing that much?

No, when they say 'push into the sea' I've always envisioned whittling away at Isn't-Real until it's a thin strip along the seashore, then like most ephemeral seashore towns, tourism goes down and ppl leave.

I am on the side of the Pals, history is on the side of the Pals, and Mother Earth is on the side of the pals. Isn't-Real doesn't realize when they are busy uprooting generations-old almond and olive groves owned by peaceful Pal farmers, they are digging their own grave. It's the age-old story, saw off the branch you are sitting on........

[Macsporan]

How dare the Palestinians be angry at those good-hearted fun-loving Jews who've driven them by force from their own homes, massacred them, bombed them, bulldozed their houses, assaisinated their leaders, occupied them and exploited them as cheap labour in their own country?

They are clearly all clinically insane.

Nuke them now. Its the only rational thing to do.

[Specop_007]

And Isreal stated publicly they would withdraw from the Gaza Strip.
And the thanks they recieved?
More bombs.

It has nothing to do with land or houses. It has to do with the fact Palestine simply wont stop violence on Isreal, no matter what Isreal does.

Since thats become apparent.....Go Isreal. kick some ass and take some names.
Which is no problem for them, they usually do.

[I_Like_Plants]

They're not going to long-term, and not even short-term if Iran can get cookin'.

Go, Iran!

Look at the overall situation, people! The guys who agitated to get Isn't-Real started wanted to see Jews farm and work with their hands, but no luck - only finaglers and parasites. Isn't-Real isn't a real country, just an extortion racket and hotbed of smuggling and crime. It's an abscess that's been allowed to exist because the world's been awash in cheap oil, well guess what? The cheap oil party's ending, and those who can't pull their weight, finaglers and parasites and those who are terrified of working for a living, well, arbeit macht frei and nicht arbeit macht tod.

[Macsporan]

This is classic anti-Semitism. It is racist and wicked. I cannot endorse it no matter how much I am distressed by the excesses of Zionist Israel.

Go elsewhere, for I fear your voice has lost its charm.

The only good Nazi, is a dead Nazi.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'T')hey're not going to long-term, and not even short-term if Iran can get cookin'.

Go, Iran!

[I_Like_Plants]

And with BILLIONS from the US, and the best of US hardware, you too can win wars against 3rd world countries.

And the Isn't-Realies don't want to nuke the Pals, they want them to be good obedient slaves like all us soulless animal goyim.

[UIUCstudent01]

Go, World Peace!

err..

When was Israel created? After WWII

How long have Palestinians been there throughout history? for at least 1800 years...

Why was Israel created? Anti-semitism / Strategic value

What fuels the fire? Religious stupidity. Obvious wealth differentiation. Personal Revenge. Historical stealing of land. Some other reasons I don't immediately know..

Also, Specop might be proud - Israel's kill to death ratio is pretty high.

Also, most Palesinians I think act independantly and don't really have a strong structure to stop the violence - Palestinians might just go bomb something because they can.... so basing the violence on the whole of the people isn't accurate...

Although I have heard some Palestinian leader or someone say something like, "We won't stop bombing until they completely leave" or something like that.

[I_Like_Plants]

Try reading about the lives of most Pals, Isn't-Real has turned the area into an open-air prison, with lack of water, malnutrition, "hunting parties" by spoiled rich Isn't-Realie boys etc a continuous fact of life. A fair number of Pals feel they won't live long anyway, and after seeing family members killed, well, why not go out with a bang? Some of us soulless goyim are so evil, we insist on fighting for our lives and those of our families.........

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'T')ry reading about the lives of most Pals, Isn't-Real has turned the area into an open-air prison, with lack of water, malnutrition, "hunting parties" by spoiled rich Isn't-Realie boys etc a continuous fact of life. A fair number of Pals feel they won't live long anyway, and after seeing family members killed, well, why not go out with a bang? Some of us soulless goyim are so evil, we insist on fighting for our lives and those of our families.........

[DefiledEngine]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Peace in the Middle East requires an acceptance of the existance of Isreal. The Palestinians need to grow up. They are clearly motivated by envy and rage against the more advanced capabilities of the people of Isreal who have shown the way in developing a relatively unfertile land. The Palestinians need to discover humility and learn the way out of their nightmare. Trashing the greenhouses that were purchased for them shows the world that they do not deserve respect.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DefiledEngine', '
')I wonder how much easier it is to say that while sitting comfortably in front of a computer, than to stand amongst the rubble of what used to be your home, watching an isreali tank decimate your neighbourhood.

[Hawkcreek]

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[DefiledEngine]

Indeed, the Israelis probably wouldn't kill many more palestinians if they yielded their weapons, since the Israelis already are the ruling faction. As far as I can see, they've taken the land and the resources they need for now, why continue to kill unnecessarily? They aren't the ones having lost their homes and their families, having to conform on others deciding their fate.

Ah, if only the indians had simply -like any "sensible" person- backed off when the colonial powers came to america and took their lands, there wouldn't have been so much trouble, right?

[PenultimateManStanding]

So what do you recommend, DE? Should Isreal be dismantled, the Isrealis 'settled' elsewhere?

[I_Like_Plants]

If the Pals put down their weapons, the Isn't-Realies would kill them to the last child. The main problem now is the Pals aren't armed nearly as well as the Isn't-Realies so they're treated as prey to be killed at will and at random.