[Cyrus]

Good times?

With the nat-gas cliff, these shortages, global warming....


Nuff said..

[oli]

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't fully realize the implications of the vagueness in your question.

[Cyrus]

*bump*

[Eli]

The Summer of 2005 was the last time people in the US will think that 10,000 dollars on a Suburban was a good deal. This winter they will have to drop the price by another 10,000 and people still won't buy them.

Things have changed over night in the US, this will be the winter of our discontent.

And to all the US haters out there if we go to hell we will surely take the rest of the world with us on the way down. That is not a threat just an observation the worlds largest economy cannot collapse and effect the whole world.

Look at the fact of what will happen if we cannot get our grain to export fast enough. If that happens this storm will kill millions around the globe.

[Dukat_Reloaded]

The american society is the pinnacle of the westernised countries. I do not hope amercia gets fucked up. I still think america is one of the best countries to live in coming second to Australia . But we have all been treading down the wrong path investing in oil technologies instead of renewable technologies. The rest of the world is in the same situation except for some remote communities that do not rely on fossil fuels such as natives. We will all be screwed in one way or another, no country will be immune so we will all be in the same boat (same planet?) as everyone else. Who knows, like some crops, they die off until they get their springtime again and the seeds regerminate. I believe this is the most interesting time to be living in the history of mankind (I didn't say the COMFIEST), and I'm glad I'm here to witness some sort of decline and perhaps witness the uprising again of a better human race who don't think they are too good to drink tap water and must drink bottled water because they think they are so special in a deulsional way.

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leaf', 'A')s one of the posters posted if the USA goes so does the world. Oil is priced in dollars.

[hanrahan]

Probably the firsat thing I learnt about economics was; "America sneezes, Australia catches a cold". Near a half century later it has only lost a little of it's truth.

What has changed is that I now realise that the whole world is addicted to the narcotic of the American "Good Time Charlies", not just us.

[jvangi]

Pfff... That will be business as usual for the powerful. Only you won't be part of them anymore.

Ask a poor african whether the end of good times is this year...

[arocoun]

I think this poll is missing the option of "No. Indeed, PO will be seen as a positive event for ridding the world of an oppressive, globally-destructive, cancerous civilization. Though PO will cause pain and suffering to many alive today, the future will consider the positive to eventually outweigh the negative." Or maybe just "Other."

Believe it or not, people had good times before oil (especially those who weren't under feudalism, like many of the free tribes of the Americas, Africa, and Australia). As for global warming, I have a feeling that PO will stop it from becoming a super-long-term problem.

[MD]

I depends on what you define as "good times", and whether or not your defined criteria ceases to exist this year.

In my case, the answer is no I will not define 2005 as the end of "good times".

[Dukat_Reloaded]

With climate change, just because we stop pumping tons of CO2 into the atmosphere will not make climate change go away, it's pretty permanet now and will be for the next 10's of thousands of years (Thanks to the eggheads short sightness, they shouldn't have been so short sighted because they wear glasses). It took millions of years for plants to slowly absorbe the co2 from the atmosphere and bury it under the ground during the birth of the earth. It will take a very long time for plants to absorbe the excess CO2 and deposit it again below the earth.