[Colorado-Valley]

I've been reading about the truckers who are organizing blockades like the one in Florida last week to protest high fuel prices, which are threatening to put them out of business.

This is not good. If the truckers decide to close down the interstate highway system, that will quickly lead to a hoarding complex at the supermarkets. The Long Emergency could quickly become the short, very very ugly emergency much sooner than any of us anticipated.

The truckers hold the trump card here, and they know it. But what could the government do to avert disaster? If they give the truckers extra fuel, the farmers will be demanding the same thing, then the food processors, then the airlines, then the energy companies ...

I am starting to wonder if fuel hits $3, whether United States citizens will go into a hysterical panic that sets the whole house of cards a tumbling.

[turmoil]

shhhhhh!!!

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Colorado-Valley', '
') The Long Emergency could quickly become the short, very very ugly emergency much sooner than any of us anticipated.

I am starting to wonder if fuel hits $3, whether United States citizens will go into a hysterical panic that sets the whole house of cards a tumbling.

[Specop_007]

The truckers are pissed because they have to eat the extra fuel costs.
Theres 3 simple solutions.

1) Subsidize independent truckers
2) Pass the cost on to consumers
3) Tell the independents to pound sand and another company comes in and picks up the extra business.

All in all, this isnt much of a problem for us as a whole. Let them park and piss and moan wherever they want.

[Hawkcreek]

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[Colorado-Valley]

Where are those damn Mexican truck drivers when you need them?

I seriously wonder how the government would subsidize the truckers. Send them energy-compensation checks? And if they are getting energy-compensation checks, then why don't "I" get an energy-compensation check?

Are we entering the era of truck blockades of the interstates and tractorcades surrounding the Washington Capitol building?

Are we going to call the National Guard back from Iraq to quell domestic unrest? Would the National Guard follow orders to tear-gas truckers and farmers from the heartland?

If I were Bush I'd be on the phone to Senator Kerry. "You remember that electrion last fall? I think we should reconsider ..."

[PenultimateManStanding]

William F. Buckley thinks we may have to go the way of gas rationing. The most important thing President Bush can do as things deteriorate is to tell the public why this is happening. He needs to confirm what Congressman Bartlett said in Congress and nip the false ideas in the bud. People are assuming that the oil companies are conspiring to 'gouge' us. People need to understand at the very least that the global supplies aren't sufficient for the global markets. If wrong-headed ideas are allowed to grow then we will have more sheer chaos. If everyone knows the situation then maybe we can pull together. (could this be the reason for Chevron's ad campaign?)

[gg3]

The truckers are being held to contract terms that were written at a time when anyone who predicted $65/barrel oil would have been labeled a doomer. These contracts force them to operate at a loss.

If you let these truckers go under, you get a new crop of truckers whose contracts allow for passing along fuel price increases.

Net result: truckers with contracts that allow passing along fuel price increases.

Far more enlightened, and less likely to lead to unrest, to allow the present circumstances to be considered covered by the "force majeure" clause ("acts of God, nature, or government") and let the present crop of truckers raise their rates.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'W')illiam F. Buckley thinks we may have to go the way of gas rationing. The most important thing President Bush can do as things deteriorate is to tell the public why this is happening. He needs to confirm what Congressman Bartlett said in Congress and nip the false ideas in the bud. People are assuming that the oil companies are conspiring to 'gouge' us. People need to understand at the very least that the global supplies aren't sufficient for the global markets. If wrong-headed ideas are allowed to grow then we will have more sheer chaos. If everyone knows the situation then maybe we can pull together. (could this be the reason for Chevron's ad campaign?)

[PenultimateManStanding]

The oil companies are making a lot of money. But aren't the prices determined by the market? And the market is global. Short of some kind of New World Order Global Government taking over, the market is going to determine the price of oil, not the producers of the oil. That's what the president needs to make clear to people so they know what is going on.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gg3', 'T')he truckers are being held to contract terms that were written at a time when anyone who predicted $65/barrel oil would have been labeled a doomer. These contracts force them to operate at a loss.

If you let these truckers go under, you get a new crop of truckers whose contracts allow for passing along fuel price increases.

Net result: truckers with contracts that allow passing along fuel price increases.

Far more enlightened, and less likely to lead to unrest, to allow the present circumstances to be considered covered by the "force majeure" clause ("acts of God, nature, or government") and let the present crop of truckers raise their rates.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')he oil companies are making a lot of money. But aren't the prices determined by the market? And the market is global. Short of some kind of New World Order Global Government taking over, the market is going to determine the price of oil, not the producers of the oil. That's what the president needs to make clear to people so they know what is going on.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gg3', 'T')he truckers are being held to contract terms that were written at a time when anyone who predicted $65/barrel oil would have been labeled a doomer. These contracts force them to operate at a loss.

If you let these truckers go under, you get a new crop of truckers whose contracts allow for passing along fuel price increases.

Net result: truckers with contracts that allow passing along fuel price increases.

Far more enlightened, and less likely to lead to unrest, to allow the present circumstances to be considered covered by the "force majeure" clause ("acts of God, nature, or government") and let the present crop of truckers raise their rates.

[seldom_seen]

If the truckers are allowed to pass on fuel price increases, that means the price of stuff goes up at Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart is already operating on razor thin margins. Therefore Wal-Mart goes under.

This could get interesting.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'I')f the truckers are allowed to pass on fuel price increases, that means the price of stuff goes up at Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart is already operating on razor thin margins. Therefore Wal-Mart goes under.

This could get interesting.

[shakespear1]

Why shouldn't truckers pass the cost on? DO IT.

Hell, trucking is a tough job and they deserve every penny they earn. Driving amongst Polish regular drivers ( operating word is IDIOTS ) and the roads here ( narrow and sh*t ), I feel sympathy for any trucker doing work in this part of the world. No one is doing them a favor for being truckers.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')he oil companies are making a lot of money. But aren't the prices determined by the market? And the market is global. Short of some kind of New World Order Global Government taking over, the market is going to determine the price of oil, not the producers of the oil. That's what the president needs to make clear to people so they know what is going on.

[The_Virginian]

economic disruptions = social unrest


I have a soft spot in heart for truckers, I sure hope they are incorperated, that way when they do go bankrupt, they can wipe out the debts and start afresh with contracts allowing for fuel increase clauses...

At least the bankrupcy laws were only passed on the peons (non-strawman/ non-embodied fininacial entities) and not upon the Credit (or any) corporations themselves!

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
')Razor thin?? Really.....

Revenue - Quarterly (In MILLIONS)
2004, 1st - 56,718
2004, 2nd - 62,637

2005, 1st - 64,763
2005, 2nd - 69,722

2006, 1st - 70,908

Total Net income (In MILLIONS)
2001 - 6,295
2002 - 6,671
2003 - 8,039
2004 - 9,054
2005 - 10,267

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
')Razor thin?? Really.....

Revenue - Quarterly (In MILLIONS)
2004, 1st - 56,718
2004, 2nd - 62,637

2005, 1st - 64,763
2005, 2nd - 69,722

2006, 1st - 70,908

Total Net income (In MILLIONS)
2001 - 6,295
2002 - 6,671
2003 - 8,039
2004 - 9,054
2005 - 10,267