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Your outdoor gear

Unread postby Schweinshaxe » Sat 13 Aug 2005, 21:52:35

This thread is for all you outdoor buffs out there. What kind of outdoor equipment do you have? Let's discuss this in this thread. Tell us what you have and your experience with the stuff.

Tent: Hilleberg Akto. 1 person light weight tent. Has room enough for 1 person and a large rucksack in the vestibule. It's possible to cook in the vestibule. Very nice tent but a little expensive.
http://www.hilleberg.se

Sleeping bag: Carinthia Explorer Down 800. A military style down sleeping bag with the zipper in the front which makes it easy to get in and out. I don't understand why not all sleeping bags have this kind of opening. Carinthia makes sleeping bags for the military in a few countries as well as civilian bags. Very comfortable and warm bag.
http://www.military-sleeping-bags.com

Rucksack: Berghaus Atlas. A 100 litre rucksack with a nice back system. Adjustable in any possible way. Side pockets can be removed and put together as a day pack.
http://www.berghaus.com (Not on the home page for some reason)
http://www.gear-zone.co.uk/eshop/Bergha ... -AW05.html (Picture here)

Sleeping pad: Therm-a-rest Classic Standard Lite. Can be folded so that the pack size is reduced. OK sleeping pad. Feels a little thin sometimes.
http://www.thermarest.com

Boots: Meindl Tibet: A hiking boot with "relaxed fit". A bit wider in the toe area than ordinary boots. Very comfortable in the terrain. Not made for city walks though...
http://www.meindl.de

Stove: Trangia 27. An alcohole stove with windshield, two saucepans in duossal, one frying pan in non-stick and a tea pot. Weight under 1 kilo. Can be used with gas or kerosene/gasoline burner as well. I always use the standard alcohole burner. It's fast, hot and unbreakable. I have the stove set up and lit in 30 seconds. When I'm ready to eat, my friends with sexy gaslone stoves haven't started to cook the food... Highly recomended!
http://www.trangia.se

Let's hear what you have now!
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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby NeoPeasant » Sat 13 Aug 2005, 22:33:16

Terrific. Label concious yuppie survivalism. Be sure to get all your stuff at the upscale mall sporting goods stores. Imagine your embarrasment if your survivalist corporate lawyer friends saw a "Coleman" label on your sleeping bag.
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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby mgibbons19 » Sat 13 Aug 2005, 22:41:40

Good grief. Give the guy a break. There's nothing wrong with wanting/having nice equipment if you can afford it.
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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby seahorse » Sat 13 Aug 2005, 23:23:15

I agree with MGibbons, buy the best stuff you can afford. Coleman makes some okay things, but they don't make comparable extreme cold weather bags or lightweight gear. Coleman makes stuff to be brought in via vehicle, not in an alpine pack that will be manpacked in over 30 miles.

That being said, I wouldn't go with a down cold weather bag, here's why: down loses its ability to retain heat when wet. So, unless you are doing an alpine climb and guaranteed not to get wet and want a bag good for all conditions, go with a synthetic cold weather bag. synthetic will keep you warm when wet. The bags made by "wiggys" are extremely popular with people in the military. They are synthetic, and have temp rated bags down to -60 degrees. They get extremely good reviews.
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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sat 13 Aug 2005, 23:32:13

Most of my stuff is old mil surp.
In my experience its about the best you can buy. The only downside is it sure as hell doesnt win any style points. But its as cheap as it comes, and damned effective.
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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby Schweinshaxe » Sat 13 Aug 2005, 23:33:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NeoPeasant', 'T')errific. Label concious yuppie survivalism. Be sure to get all your stuff at the upscale mall sporting goods stores. Imagine your embarrasment if your survivalist corporate lawyer friends saw a "Coleman" label on your sleeping bag.


LOL :lol:

This is not yuppie stuff. Since I'm an experienced outdoor guy I want to share my knowledge a little. The stuff listed here is priced somewhere in the middle. You can get much more expensive equipment if you want with the right labels. What you see in the list is the BEST you can get not the most EXPENSIVE or TRENDY. Most of it I bought new on e-bay for a lot less than what it would cost in the shops.

I visit a lot of outdoor shops and I always wonder how they can sell so much crap for those prices. Most of the label stuff is pure garbage.

Example: The best pocket lamp I have used is the Osram Dulux Mini. It costs around 5 Euros and, is smaller than a pack of smoke and will light up your tent much better than the 100 Euro LED lamps will.

I liked your comment by the way. You sound just like me when I'm talking to my label/price worshipping friends.
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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby Schweinshaxe » Sat 13 Aug 2005, 23:41:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'I') agree with MGibbons, buy the best stuff you can afford. Coleman makes some okay things, but they don't make comparable extreme cold weather bags or lightweight gear. Coleman makes stuff to be brought in via vehicle, not in an alpine pack that will be manpacked in over 30 miles.

That being said, I wouldn't go with a down cold weather bag, here's why: down loses its ability to retain heat when wet. So, unless you are doing an alpine climb and guaranteed not to get wet and want a bag good for all conditions, go with a synthetic cold weather bag. synthetic will keep you warm when wet. The bags made by "wiggys" are extremely popular with people in the military. They are synthetic, and have temp rated bags down to -60 degrees. They get extremely good reviews.


You're right about the problem with down when it gets wet. I therefore always protect the sleeping bag from water. This is priority number one. Everything else can get wet, but not the sleeping bag. I have used it during days with wet snow and never had a problem. I don't like synthetic bags because they are heavier and can't be compressed like a downie. I have a synthetic summer bag which is OK.
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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby rogerhb » Sun 14 Aug 2005, 01:02:42

Gortex "bivvy" bags are an excellent way of keeping a sleeping bag dry.

Main problem occurs when you have wet kit on before you get into your bag, how are you going to dry it? Hypothermia can catch you up quickly.

Here I am talking about how are you going to stay "dry" for weeks at a time with minimum sets of clothing.

One way is to wear your sodden gear when up, dry gear inside the bag then wear the sodden gear when you get up again, that way sleeping bag stays dry. Not much fun putting all your wet gear in the morning but better than the alternatives.
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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby dmtu » Sun 14 Aug 2005, 03:15:46

You guys are making me want to trek accross the country just to see if I can.
You observed it from the start
Now you’re a million miles apart
As we bleed another nation
So you can watch you favorite station
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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sun 14 Aug 2005, 03:18:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dmtu', 'Y')ou guys are making me want to trek accross the country just to see if I can.


Buy ya a beer when ya come through KC. 8)
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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby dmtu » Sun 14 Aug 2005, 04:23:12

Got a long time military bud down in Gallatin. Or is it up in Gallatin, better I better work with my map and compass.
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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sun 14 Aug 2005, 04:27:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dmtu', 'G')ot a long time military bud down in Gallatin. Or is it up in Gallatin, better I better work with my map and compass.


You have friends?? :shock:





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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby dmtu » Sun 14 Aug 2005, 04:28:49

Just the one.

Actually I've just started building up my trekking inventory. Prepare for the worst expect the best kinda thing for me. This might end up moved to planning. So ignore me and that hateful spec and tell the rest of us what you use and for that matter what you think you would want in order to live like a mountain man running trap sets.
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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby eastbay » Sun 14 Aug 2005, 07:07:24

I have three pair of new-in-box Danner boots which should last me the rest of my life. That and my half-dozen pair of jeans makes me good to go.

I figure I can steal the rest of the assorted stuff while you all are sleeping. :-D

I also have an old Kelty pack which I may use again for purposes other than back country hiking.
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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby seldom_seen » Sun 14 Aug 2005, 07:27:26

stove <-- msr whisperlite. I bought a back-up once I started planning for oil depletion. burns white gas/coleman fuel.
Without it I would feel naked, alone in a hostile universe.

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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sun 14 Aug 2005, 07:45:06

I was talking to my friend one time about backpacking. He does alot of more (More like hitchhiking but I digress....)

I asked him if he thought it was worth it to pay a premium for a better tent, or just get an el cheapo. His response summed it up nicely.

"Oh dude, yes. When the only thing between you and the wind and rain is a peice of fabric, you want a good peice of fabric. You want a DAAAAMNED good peice of fabric"

I think that pretty much holds true for most camping gear.
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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby Schweinshaxe » Sun 14 Aug 2005, 10:35:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 's')tove <-- msr whisperlite. I bought a back-up once I started planning for oil depletion. burns white gas/coleman fuel.
Without it I would feel naked, alone in a hostile universe.

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Isn't white gas made of oil? If you worry about oil depletion I'd suggest that you buy a stove with an alcohol burner. Since they aren't pressurized, there's nothing that can break. You need to carry a little bit more fuel but you can relax because an alcohol burner will always work.

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Re: Your outdoor gear

Unread postby 101 » Sun 14 Aug 2005, 12:40:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')Oh dude, yes. When the only thing between you and the wind and rain is a peice of fabric, you want a good peice of fabric. You want a DAAAAMNED good peice of fabric"


And I just found out. I am currently located in Eigilstadir in the eastern part of Iceland. I borrowed a tent for the trip since I discovered at the last minute that mine had busted poles. It sucks!

I sit in the only internet cafe in town, hugging the heater after I got soaked last night in a light drizzle. Averything is soaked. I'm waiting until tomorrow to decide if to continue south into the highlands as originally planned, or to pack up and take the next bus back to Reykjavik.
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