The president said, in this article:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he entire nation, all sectors and communities must engage in a serious effort to conserve energy and support all means to bring down our overall consumption of energy and exploit alternative sources of fuel
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President: "entire nation must conserve energy"
by seldom_seen » Thu 11 Aug 2005, 17:34:36
The president of the Phillipines that is. Any chance the chief oil man in the whitehouse would say something like this? Or are they perfectly happy that thier constituents (oil companies) are swimming in a sea of record profits?
Shameful that this country consumes a 1/4 of world production, but it's just business as usual (until the shortages that is).
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Re: President: "entire nation must conserve energy"
by killJOY » Thu 11 Aug 2005, 17:59:27
Didn't our [p]resident say something to this effect: "We need an energy policy that encourages consumption?"
Like a doctor saying, "You need a diet that keeps that ANAL BLEED flowing."
Like a doctor saying, "You need a diet that keeps that ANAL BLEED flowing."
Peak oil = comet Kohoutek.
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Re: President: "entire nation must conserve energy"
by KiddieKorral » Thu 11 Aug 2005, 18:12:26
Damn. Got my hopes up and everything. I should have known better.
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Re: President: "entire nation must conserve energy"
by The_Toecutter » Thu 11 Aug 2005, 20:49:46
"Conservation may be a sign of personal virtue, but it is not a sufficient basis for a sound, comprehensive energy policy."
~Dick Cheney
~Dick Cheney
The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the old growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder. ~Thomas Jefferson
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Re: President: "entire nation must conserve energy"
by freetoken » Fri 12 Aug 2005, 03:23:46
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Toecutter', '"')Conservation may be a sign of personal virtue, but it is not a sufficient basis for a sound, comprehensive energy policy."
~Dick Cheney
~Dick Cheney
And he is correct. Conservation is not *sufficient* for a sound energy policy. If it were, you would not be seeing all the die-off postings here.
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Re: President: "entire nation must conserve energy"
by FatherOfTwo » Fri 12 Aug 2005, 19:30:07
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', 'D')idn't our [p]resident say something to this effect: "We need an energy policy that encourages consumption?"
Like a doctor saying, "You need a diet that keeps that ANAL BLEED flowing."
Like a doctor saying, "You need a diet that keeps that ANAL BLEED flowing."
In a twisted sort of way they are right. At least in terms of hitting the brick wall sooner, rather than later when the population is greater. Doubt they meant it in those terms..
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Re: President: "entire nation must conserve energy"
by I_Like_Plants » Fri 12 Aug 2005, 19:39:55
Hey Phillippines, wanna trade presidents? No? Uh, didn't think so. And I'm sure we'd have been happy to keep your wife in shoes too...... 
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Re: President: "entire nation must conserve energy"
by The_Toecutter » Fri 12 Aug 2005, 20:37:51
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd he is correct. Conservation is not *sufficient* for a sound energy policy. If it were, you would not be seeing all the die-off postings here.
On the contrary, a dieoff is more likely to occur post-peak precisely because we didn't have renewables, which are viable today, in place and functioning as a means to cut oil consumption and save it for things important things, like growing crops. A properly implemented powerdown solution could free up time to prevent a dieoff and allow the population to stabilize and eventually fall. But it goes against the current economic system.
America accounts for 25% of the world's oil consumption, 45% of oil America consumes which is burned as FUEL for its automobiles. Just cutting that out of the equation for America's cars and only America's cars alone drops oil consumption worldwide by 9%. If every other country were also to drop this fuel consumption from their automobiles, we could already see about 1/3 of oil consumption eliminated. Electric cars are technically viable today, but various industries and an overbloated government stands to lose revenue should they replace our current fleet of maintenance whores and tax generators(see the following topic: http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic8972.html). Eliminate airplanes as well for everything except travel from continent to continent, and you make even more reductions. Replace high speed travel for land with high speed electric rail as a substitute for airtravel, and to displace use of even more cars, bring back electric trolley systems to connect the inner city with the outlying areas.
Either way, either humanity will implement the solutions available, through conservation, or nature will do it for them. The time keeps ticking down.
The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the old growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder. ~Thomas Jefferson
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