Absolutely no advertising

by **MonteQuest** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 03:36:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hawkcreek', 'W')hat would our world be like if all advertising were banned except for word of mouth reccomendations?

by **k_semler** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 03:42:30

I'll second the motion of banning advertisement,. I have such a disgust for it, that I have not watched hardly any TV in the last year and 3 months. The last TV program I watched was that one where Yellowstone blew her top. (That was a good show). I meant to catch the Oil Crisis one, but I forgot to turn on the boob tube. Oh well, it dosen't sound like I missed much. Maybe I will buy it when it is released on DVD. Then again, maybe not.

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 04:51:52

William Catton talked about this same idea in the book 'Overshoot'. I can't remember the details of what he said, but I think was to the effect that we can't afford to keep inciting consumerism as a way of life and advertising is a major culprit in the system. I'm sure many of us have shared a feeling that there is something disgusting about advertising for many years. I know I did long before I heard about peak oil. It is clearly one of the main evils of our system and is closely related to propaganda and manipulation of the public.

by **Specop_007** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 05:43:37

While we're bitching....

You know what bothers me the most about TV? That goddamned fucking fake laughter.
Sorry for the "in your face" there, but Jesus I hate that. Literally, every 5 seconds, after EVERY sentence, you hear the "hahaha"..."hahaha"..."hahaha"
It literally drives me up a wall. Theres only about 3 sit-com's on TV I can watch and not notice it.

It didnt used to be a problem. I got stuck in a room listening to that fake laughter for about 3 hours one time in the middle of an intense acid trip. I about freaked out and killed someone. It was ugly.
Ever since then, i cant watch shows with fake laughter.

by **nuhax** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 05:52:41

I don't mind advertising. In fact it's fine if it's well-targeted and not intrusive.

For example, TV ads at minimal fixed intervals are ok. Web advertising is fine if it's kept targeted and off to the side, not with popups, spyware etc.

For example, the google ads. They are not intusive and occasionally have something interesting.Obviously a lot of other people find them useful as well or they wouldn't be clicking on them so much.

by **ohanian** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 06:15:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'Y')ou know what bothers me the most about TV? That goddamned fucking fake laughter.
Sorry for the "in your face" there, but Jesus I hate that. Literally, every 5 seconds, after EVERY sentence, you hear the "hahaha"..."hahaha"..."hahaha"
It literally drives me up a wall. Theres only about 3 sit-com's on TV I can watch and not notice it.

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 06:53:42

Banning advertising would obviously be unconstitutional. The whole 'free speech' thing. I'm sure that if the Framers could have had a look at the modern phenomenon they would have been appalled. It works by opening wounds and exacerbating misery while offering the 'cure'. It feeds the addiction of mindless consumerism. It is responsible for creating desires in people which result in accelerated drawdown of resources and the fouling of the planet and destruction of ecosystems. How many people have seen their lives cluttered by junk that never should have been bought and winds up in the garbage or at garage sales? Blame it on the advertisers. The whole stinking system must end, ban advertising!

by **BrownDog** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 09:41:20

I've dropped magazines because of the advertising. I suddenly realized that the magazine isn't what is being sold, but rather the reader. The magazine sells subscribers to the advertisers. Any 'content' is just there to get people to read it.

If we could get rid of billboards, I'd be happy. I tend to agree with rights of expression, but I consider the right to not be inundated with ads as I wander through life as a concern as well. There are plenty of ways that companies can advertise without cluttering the landscape.

No TV for me, for over a decade. If I'm ever in the unfortunate situation of being in a room with a TV on, and the show has a laugh track, I usually mock it out loud. Every time I have to listen to the TV's mindless laughing, I mockingly laugh out loud. Of course, people trying to watch the shoe find it annoying, but they usually seem to get the point. (It's also amusing to me that people watching it are almost never laughing themselves.)

Another TV trick is to point out all the 'camera events'. By this, I mean a zoom (in or out), a change of camera/view, panning, etc. When you notice this, you start to understand why people's attention span is getting shorter. Depending on the show, there is a camera event every 1/2 to 2 seconds, with only a few exceptions. It's not just the shows, either, as commercials seem to be the worst.

by **Free** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 09:56:42

We just recently had an art project just around the corner where I live where the artists stuck yellow foil over everything written in the street, every advertising, shop name etc., it looked like this:

When you walked through this street it was a great feeling, light and airy, you suddenly realized how much you are bombarded with sensual overkill all the time.

by **k_semler** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 10:29:09

Now that, is Art! :-D

Black or white aluminum foil would have looked much better though. :wink:

by **Specop_007** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 13:10:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', 'N')ow that, is Art! :-D

Black or white aluminum foil would have looked much better though. :wink:

by **Pops** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 15:23:14

NOOOO!

It’s how I make money…

Don’t you folks want me to buy more ammo and seeds?

Next you’ll want to out law politicians, lawyers and car salesmen.

Sheesh!

:-D

by **smiley** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 15:45:06

Last week-end we were sitting in the garden, when one of those banner planes came buzzing over our heads. We discussed the ludicracy of it.

You cannot escape commercials. They try to reach you by stickers, billboards, mail, radio and television. And when you're out of reach from these instruments they simply call you at home or hire a frigging plane to get you to buy their products.

And they won't stop until every writeable surface is covered. Commercial airplanes are now flying billboards, private cars now often carry commercials in return for a reduction in fuel costs.

Even in the hospitals there are advertisements for medicines and equipment. Whatfor? Do they really think that when I'm lying there in pain I'm going to say: "I'm sorry but I rather be resuscitated with a Heartstart HG defibrillator, I guess I'll just hang around until the next ambulance arrives."

I'm surprised that they haven't discovered the military yet, you know: this bomb was brought to you by Hertz rentacar, have a nice day.

by **Wildwell** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 17:28:52

Without advertising you can forget most sports, newspapers, TV and entertainment in general. In some people's power down scenario, there will be hardly any industry or commerce, no travel, no sex, no entertainment...looks like it's going to be mighty boring..

by **smiley** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 17:58:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ithout advertising you can forget most sports

by **Permanently_Baffled** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 18:10:52

I have been to the US once on vacation.

We only watched TV occasionally when we were having a bit of dinner before going out again.

I was absolutely shocked at the amount of advertising! I thought it was bad enough here!

We noticed a lot of advertising for a film called "Red Water" , a sort of jaws rip off. The adverts were numerous but we thought , thats normal for a first time showing on TV.

But I was absolutely stunned that whilst watching the film "Red Water" , they were advertising the repeats for "Red Water " during the ad breaks!! :lol:

I realised that they showed the film 3 times a night 3 times in one week , is the fecking normal in the US?!

absolutely nuts, watching adverts for a film during the ad breaks of the very same film, that takes the piss! :lol:

PB

by **Wildwell** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 18:18:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ithout advertising you can forget most sports

by **Wildwell** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 18:32:28

It’s a load of bollocks coming out with a ‘plan’ in any case. The likely Montequest plan we will see, would mean a complete destruction of modern society (Why do I think this? – well advertising is a principle part of industry and commerce). For a start, it’s entirely unenforceable and unworkable and undemocratic. The nearest thing you’ll get to it is a ‘sustainability’ law, which would allow most things as long as they are powered by renewable energy and don’t destroy the environment in unsustainable ways.

by **Kent** » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 21:15:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'N')OOOO!

It’s how I make money…

Don’t you folks want me to buy more ammo and seeds?

Next you’ll want to outlaw politicians, lawyers and car salesmen.

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