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Water usage in US have plateau

Unread postby nth » Tue 19 Jul 2005, 14:29:37

I am shocked to see that water usage has hit a peak and experts believed water usage can actually start declining without hurting the economy from growing.

How many people would have thought this was possible?

USGS water usage table
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Unread postby ConsumptionJane » Tue 19 Jul 2005, 16:19:45

At least in the western US, where water is scarce but water law is hefty, many basins are already overappropriated so developers have to go on the market to acquire water for their projects. Normally this entails the conversion of agricultural rights into municipal and industrial uses. It is probably the most common kind of water rights transaction that exists today and the source for most of this water is underground. M&I are considered "higher and better" uses of water by law in some states so there is little objection if someone wants to buy a ranch and move the water that is already being extracted somewhere else. In this way, sprawl and growth can continue without there being an actual increase in the consumption of water, just a different use. Of course over time, there will be fewer and fewer ranches available for conversion until someday large cities will have to propose projects like Las Vegas just to stay afloat.
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Unread postby nth » Tue 19 Jul 2005, 16:55:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ConsumptionJane', 'A')t least in the western US, where water is scarce but water law is hefty, many basins are already overappropriated so developers have to go on the market to acquire water for their projects. Normally this entails the conversion of agricultural rights into municipal and industrial uses. It is probably the most common kind of water rights transaction that exists today and the source for most of this water is underground. M&I are considered "higher and better" uses of water by law in some states so there is little objection if someone wants to buy a ranch and move the water that is already being extracted somewhere else. In this way, sprawl and growth can continue without there being an actual increase in the consumption of water, just a different use. Of course over time, there will be fewer and fewer ranches available for conversion until someday large cities will have to propose projects like Las Vegas just to stay afloat.
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ahh.. yes, lots of places require development to provide where they are going to get the water before approving it. so since few new resevoires are being built and are too costly, we are seeing water rights being swapped.

it is also interesting to note that main water usage prior to 1980 are:

agriculture
cooling (power plants and other industries)
cities/suburbs

Cities and suburbs have seen some efficiency gains, but due to development and population growth- it is growing very fast.

agriculture despite increasing crop yields have significantly reduce water usage.

the biggest noticeable efficiency has been water used for cooling. Industrial water use has gone down dramaticly. This to me points to that the biggest area that efficiency can be gain is in business/industrial use.

We see similar thing with oil after 1970's oil crisis. Industrial oil usage drop a lot.
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Unread postby ConsumptionJane » Tue 19 Jul 2005, 17:15:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')he biggest noticeable efficiency has been water used for cooling. Industrial water use has gone down dramaticly. This to me points to that the biggest area that efficiency can be gain is in business/industrial use.

Yes, this will definately be an area where water use can be made more efficient. It certainly would be more effective than a bunch of low flow toilets that have to be flushed again and again. Not that conservation in cities is unsuccessful, but more a matter of counting pennies. It's the farmers and industrial users who are the big water consumers. I've seen some power plant proposals have difficulty progressing because they are "wet" cooled instead of dry. I've also seen people argue this point to keep water rights from being granted to a power plant. BTW, there is only one gas fired power plant being proposed in Nevada and the rest are coal, hmm...
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