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9/05 Scientific American: Crossroads for planet Earth

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9/05 Scientific American: Crossroads for planet Earth

Unread postby chrispi » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 11:57:03

Has anyone read this issue? I always find Scientific American fascinating (it had a Peak Oil article in '98 ) and it always deals with issues calmly adn with great insight.

The energy article in this SA doesn't dispute PO, but it does say that we can obviate it almost solely by improving efficiency. What do you think?

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Re: 9/05 Scientific American: Crossroads for planet Earth

Unread postby Berkeley » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 16:02:32

I think SA is assuming that people are rational. But none of these problems would have occurred in the first place if that were true. Scientific American writing emerges from an Ivory Tower that has completely forgotten what real people are like.
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Re: 9/05 Scientific American: Crossroads for planet Earth

Unread postby oli » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 16:09:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Berkeley', 'I') think SA is assuming that people are rational. But none of these problems would have occurred in the first place if that were true. Scientific American writing emerges from an Ivory Tower that has completely forgotten what real people are like.


Quoted for truth.

I love SA, I think because it's a cross between Practical Engineering and New Scientist, whilst at the same time attempting to retain a minimum of dignity.

I still have an issue of SA from the 1995 which talks about scientific advances in the 21st century. I expect I'll keep that 'til the day I die, without seeing any of it come true.

But it's a nice magazine, if you want to let your mind drift away from the here-and-now and explore the possibilities of the human race. Or something.
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Re: 9/05 Scientific American: Crossroads for planet Earth

Unread postby shakespear1 » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 16:29:12

I started to read SA since I was in 7-8 grade. Loved the diagrams, look back in history etc. But I am still amazed and will never stop being amazed at how much knowledge we collect that is critical to the Planets well being and .... AND NOTHING. :shock:

It seems that we do more studying than applying. I should rephrase that, study to apply if it makes money.
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Re: 9/05 Scientific American: Crossroads for planet Earth

Unread postby bobcousins » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 21:11:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Berkeley', 'I') think SA is assuming that people are rational. But none of these problems would have occurred in the first place if that were true. Scientific American writing emerges from an Ivory Tower that has completely forgotten what real people are like.


Er yeah, thats why they call it Scientific. This magazine is not for people like you. If you want Mad sheeple in a blind panic American, try one of the many other magazines.
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Re: 9/05 Scientific American: Crossroads for planet Earth

Unread postby FireJack » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 22:06:01

The people who write these articles may not think that these actions will come to pass, but they have to write it as though there was hope that it will happen. I just don't see one of the articles ending with "not of this will probably happen because people are generally to fucked in the head so expect and orgy of violence and death in the near future."
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