[3aidlillahi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'O')k im done.

[Plantagenet]

The UN says the US must prosecute anyone who is "complicit" or who "participated" in the torture, and that means the Justice Dept. lawyers

UN tells Obama he must prosecute torturers

Under the Geneva Conventions torture is a war crime and torturers and those complicit in torture must be prosecuted as war criminals.

[Plantagenet]

Even Obama risks being labelled as "complicit" to torture if he continues to block investigation and possible prosecutions of the torturers in the CIA. Obama has been trying to protect the torturers in the CIA from all punishment, but from the same UN official:

"Nowak said Saturday that Obama's decision not to prosecute CIA operatives who used questionable interrogation practices violates the same U.N. convention."

[sittinguy]

Anyone whom disaggrees with this stuff needs to watch the vid of Richard Burg getting his head cut off..........part of me wishes I never saw it, It was hands down,, the worst thing I EVER saw on the internet.

[3aidlillahi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sittinguy', 'A')nyone whom disaggrees with this stuff needs to watch the vid of Richard Burg getting his head cut off..........part of me wishes I never saw it, It was hands down,, the worst thing I EVER saw on the internet.

[Plantagenet]

Amnesty International accuses Obama and A.G. Holder of condoning torture

Amnesty International demands Obama stop shielding CIA torturers from prosecution

I suspect Obama did not understand the nature of the Geneva Conventions and International Law on the torture issue when he openly promised the CIA torturers he would protect them from prosecution. If Obama shields the CIA torturers from prosecution, Obama is engaging in a coverup and is legally complicit in the torture. Obama's claim that the tortures were "only following orders" is not considered a valid defense when it comes to torture and other war crimes.

[Plantagenet]

".....statements issued by President Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder, effectively conferring impunity for acts of torture – crimes under international law, are incompatible with the USA’s international legal obligation to bring perpetrators to justice.

International law is clear. Torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment can never be justified. They are never legal. Even in a state of emergency, there can be no exemption from this obligation.

International law is also clear about the state’s duties when this prohibition is violated. States must ensure that independent and impartial investigations are carried out into allegations of torture or other ill-treatment and that anyone found responsible is brought to justice.

In a letter to CIA officers, President Obama said: “In releasing these memos, the men and women of the CIA have assurances from both myself, and from Attorney General Holder, that we will protect all who acted reasonably and relied upon legal advice from the Department of Justice that their actions were lawful.

"The Attorney General has assured me that these individuals will not be prosecuted and that the Government will stand by them”. But there is no such thing as torture perpetrated in “good faith” or “reasonable” circumstances."

---Amnesty International

[Plantagenet]

While torture is against international law, its not clear that waterboarding is against US law. The Navy Seals and other military groups have done it for years as part of their POW training. There were also numerous public demonstrations of "waterboarding" in DC and elsewhere to protest waterboarding during the Bush years. Police stood by and watched these without arresting anyone for waterboarding. Some of these demos are recorded on YouTube but no one is chasing down the waterboarders. Since none of these people have been arrested for waterboarding, it doesn't appear to be a crime in the U.S.

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'W')hile torture is against international law, its not clear that waterboarding is against US law. The Navy Seals and other military groups have done it for years as part of their POW training. There were also numerous public demonstrations of "waterboarding" in DC and elsewhere to protest waterboarding during the Bush years. Police stood by and watched these without arresting anyone for waterboarding. Some of these demos are recorded on YouTube but no one is chasing down the waterboarders. Since none of these people have been arrested for waterboarding, it doesn't appear to be a crime in the U.S.

[OutOfGas]

The US performed some PC waterboarding "torture".

The animals deserved much worse.

All whiners shoud be shipped to N. Korea.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OutOfGas', 'T')he US performed some PC waterboarding "torture".

The animals deserved much worse.

All whiners shoud be shipped to N. Korea.

[OutOfGas]

Jesus preached that we should obey the law and our leaders.

So I am not sure that he would have been against this waterboarding.

I stand by my statements.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OutOfGas', 'J')esus preached that we should obey the law and our leaders.

So I am not sure that he would have been against this waterboarding.

I stand by my statements.

[OutOfGas]

Ludi, I can tell you are anti-christian so I will no longer respond to you.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OutOfGas', '[')b]Ludi, I can tell you are anti-christian so I will no longer respond to you.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'W')hile torture is against international law, its not clear that waterboarding is against US law. The Navy Seals and other military groups have done it for years as part of their POW training. There were also numerous public demonstrations of "waterboarding" in DC and elsewhere to protest waterboarding during the Bush years. Police stood by and watched these without arresting anyone for waterboarding. Some of these demos are recorded on YouTube but no one is chasing down the waterboarders. Since none of these people have been arrested for waterboarding, it doesn't appear to be a crime in the U.S.

[Plantagenet]

If waterboarding was a crime, they would've arrested Keith Olbermann.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('3aidlillahi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')hes going to give you the right information the next time.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')Thanks, Ludi. I never would've guessed that.

[Plantagenet]

The ACLU has now denounced Obama's plan to shield the CIA torturers from prosecution.

"Anthony Romero, the executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union, said Obama’s amnesty proposal for those responsible “is simply untenable.”

Obama has a track record of caving in to the ACLU.

Obama turned over the 4 memos after the ACLU sued. Soon he will release hundreds of prisoner abuse photos because the ACLU filed a different law suit. But somehow Obama wants us to believe that he will shield the CIA people if the ACLU sues him to get them prosecuted.

Uh-huh. Obama will stand up to the ACLU and the UN. Right. Sure he will.