[k_semler]

How would you like to see this:


become this:



Because it is, and it is the fault of illegal immigrants. Where are the environmentalists on this trash situation? Appearantly being useless as usual.

http://members.cox.net/hijinx/B58.htm

[Phil]

You might find this website of interest: American Renaissance

[k_semler]

Umm, I'm not exactly worried about the downfall of the whiteman. I could give 2 shits less what color they are. If whites, blacks, or latinos trash the countryside they should be charged for reckless disposal of hazordous waste. I find it rather strange that if I were to throw 1 single ciggarette butt out of my window on my way to work I can get a $960 fine, but these illegal immigrants, (which should not even be here in the first place), get absolutly no fine imposed on them for disposing of the equivilant of Whitman County Dump on private property! It seems that the illegals get more sympathy from the various federal and local governments than do legitimate citizens. We are about .001 step from just opening up the southern and nothern borders, which in fact rewards them for violating a federal statute of immigration, and various local statutes regarding waste disposal.

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', 'H')ow would you like to see this:


become this:



Because it is, and it is the fault of illegal immigrants. Where are the environmentalists on this trash situation? Appearantly being useless as usual.

http://members.cox.net/hijinx/B58.htm

[TWilliam]

That's what happens when you invite the Third World over for dinner k_ ...

Speaking of which...

Link

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ne of my friends in Arizona related an interesting story to me. She and her husband live in a somewhat out-of-the-way area, with plenty of land and not many neighbors. They are also fairly close to the border. After moving there they quickly learned to keep things locked up, as they had a tendency to disappear at night. But it was when she was home alone late one night and heard rustling in her kitchen that things started ratcheting up. When she went downstairs, lo and behold there were three men rummaging through her pantry. She screamed, told them to get the eff out, and punctuated that command by waving the business end of her Mossberg 12 gauge (what she jokingly referred to later as her "universal translator"). They skedaddled.

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', 'T')hat's what happens when you invite the Third World over for dinner k_ ...

Speaking of which...

Link

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ne of my friends in Arizona related an interesting story to me. She and her husband live in a somewhat out-of-the-way area, with plenty of land and not many neighbors. They are also fairly close to the border. After moving there they quickly learned to keep things locked up, as they had a tendency to disappear at night. But it was when she was home alone late one night and heard rustling in her kitchen that things started ratcheting up. When she went downstairs, lo and behold there were three men rummaging through her pantry. She screamed, told them to get the eff out, and punctuated that command by waving the business end of her Mossberg 12 gauge (what she jokingly referred to later as her "universal translator"). They skedaddled.

[k_semler]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', 'H')ow would you like to see this:


become this:



Because it is, and it is the fault of illegal immigrants. Where are the environmentalists on this trash situation? Appearantly being useless as usual.

http://members.cox.net/hijinx/B58.htm

[k_semler]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', 'T')hat's what happens when you invite the Third World over for dinner k_ ...

Speaking of which...

Link

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ne of my friends in Arizona related an interesting story to me. She and her husband live in a somewhat out-of-the-way area, with plenty of land and not many neighbors. They are also fairly close to the border. After moving there they quickly learned to keep things locked up, as they had a tendency to disappear at night. But it was when she was home alone late one night and heard rustling in her kitchen that things started ratcheting up. When she went downstairs, lo and behold there were three men rummaging through her pantry. She screamed, told them to get the eff out, and punctuated that command by waving the business end of her Mossberg 12 gauge (what she jokingly referred to later as her "universal translator"). They skedaddled.

[lotrfan55345]

If we take all the illegals out, California's economy WILL collapse...

Who will make our 3000 miles Ceasar salads?

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')r could it have something to do with a swim across the Rio Grande that we stole from them?

[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lotrfan55345', 'I')f we take all the illegals out, California's economy WILL collapse...

Who will make our 3000 miles Ceasar salads?

[Phil]

Let's not forget that "Mexico" didn't even exist as an independent nation until 1821, 45 years after the US. And Mexico inherited its "boundaries" from Spain, whose claim over this vast area of Mexico and the US Southwest was specious at best.

Texas, in particular, was occupied by various Indian cultures who were mostly hostile to the "Mexican" colonies sent north into South Texas by Spain, and later Mexico. So when Mexico solicited Americans to settle Texas, it was to act as a buffer against hostile Plains culture Indians. The Americans defeated the Mexicans not long after, and later the remaining Indians.

That's all history. We can do nothing about the history. Now we're on the defensive, and we should fight.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ass illegal immigration is costing Texas more than $4.65 billion a year finds a new report released today by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). The Costs of Illegal Immigration to Texans, examines the fiscal costs being borne by the state to provide education, health care and incarceration for an illegal alien population now estimated to exceed 1.5 million.

Using a 1994 study published by the Urban Institute as a baseline, The Cost of Illegal Immigration to Texans looks at Census Bureau and other data to estimate the explosive growth in the size and cost of illegal immigration in the nation's second most populous state. In 2004, the annual fiscal burden of illegal immigration amounted to about $725 per Texas household headed by a native-born resident.

[Phil]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', 'U')mm, I'm not exactly worried about the downfall of the whiteman. I could give 2 shits less what color they are.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'W')hy would someone crossing a burning desert want to go naked?

Maybe they're taking their pants off to get f&%ked up the b$*thole by the white oppressor?

Or could it have something to do with a swim across the Rio Grande that we stole from them?
pete

[pea-jay]

I am sick and tired of hearing people whining about illegal immigrants and how they are behind the overall decline of this country. Just SHUT UP for once! Have you not thought about why they are REALLY here?

Like they are here because they have nothing better than leave their family behind and travel hundreds of miles to work shitty jobs for even shittier pay.

NO MORONS, they're here because we INVITED them.

We got TIRED of paying decent wages to unionized meatpackers in the industrialized northern cities. So we busted the unions, moved the shops to Dixie and lo and behold we can't find anyone to work those jobs. Now we have Mexican communities forming in Arkansas.

We ENCOURAGE continued immigration on a YEARLY basis so that our crops get picked. We have done this 1942 because its easier for our farmer owners to pay substandard wages than try and pass on the true cost for that 3000 mile caesar salad. Costs that, by the way, are borne me as a tax payer living in one of those ag labor counties.

We PROMOTE immigrant growth in the construction work field, because they work harder, cheaper and complain less than us "whiny" citizens.

We EXPECT cheap service sector help so we can continue to live our narcisistic lives and not worry about doing our own lawns, cleaning our homes offices and hotels, serving us our food so we do not have to spend our precious time doing or hard earned money paying for those tasks.

Then, while we put our focus on the border, we ignore the thousands of unscrupulous employers that SEEK out and HIRE these individuals. When we do "shockingly" discover illegals working in a factory or cleaning a hotel room, we deport those miscreants and give a slap on the wrist to the employer. Look at Walmart's fine for utilizing illegals. TEN Million bucks! It probably still was cheaper to pay the fine and pay the illegals than it was to hire citizens and pay them even the Walmart wages and benefits. Did anyone go to jail? ANYONE?

Nor are we concerned with the economic forces that drove them here. Ever wonder why we have so many poor farmers come here from Mexico? I'll tell you... NAFTA...yeah that "great sucking sound." Well one of the many "benefits" of the trade agreement was the flooding of Mexico with cheap petro-CORN from Iowa, displacing many small Mexican farmers. Prior to NAFTA, Mexico was self-sufficient in corn. Now they are dependent on our imports. Add in the growth of US style grocery operations that focus on mass-produced produce from the cheapest possible source whenever possible (which usually precludes local sales to grocery chains) and what's your average campesino to do? Those that didnt wind up in the slums of Mexico City will inevitably end up picking raisins in Selma or lettuce in Salinas. And the best part about this--the US Government WELCOMES this. You CAN'T do illegal worker roundups in the Imperial, Central or Salinas valleys of California or you will cross some very powerful people and corporations. Ain't globalization grand??

Economists certainly must be in awe with how efficient they have made everything.

I don't disagree with the assesments on how illegal immigration is impacting US society or the environment. Here in the central valley, it is one of the SINGLE most important factor driving population growth. It's not healthy for anyone. Immigration does not help out the immigrants. It depresses wages for the least skilled and the most vulnerable citizens of this country. It allows the donor country to skirt making the hard decisions that helped drive immigrants here in the first place. Sure we pay less for our food, our lawn care or our vacation. But we pay out of the wazoo for the rest.

Then we make crossing back and forth so difficult, illegals would rather settle here rather than risk getting caught or getting dead when crossing. Any surprise that "guest worker" or "temporary help" becomes tomorrow's new residents and next decade's new citizens. Before long whole families relocate here to join the original workers. Any wonder why we have to build so many schools?

Illegal immigration doesn't benefit anyone. Anyone other than those that use their labor. They benefit--at our expense. WHere's the outrage?

Next time you are mad at Juan Perez for sneaking into this country to harvest your food, think of (farmer) John Smith that demanded that low cost labor supply in the first place.

Next time you feel the need to bitch about those damn dirty illegals, consider who encouraged them to come here in the first place.

In the end one should look at this statement again...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o when Mexico solicited Americans to settle Texas, it was to act as a buffer against hostile Plains culture Indians. The Americans defeated the Mexicans not long after, and later the remaining Indians.

[pea-jay]

How would you like to see this:


become this:


Now this I consider this trashing the desert

[Phil]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pea-jay', '
')

Now this I consider this trashing the desert

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Phil', '
')As for Mexican immigration being "our" own fault, I liken it to an analogy of a house. I'm not only pissed off at my neighbors for waltzing in my house and eating my food (and shitting on my carpet), I'm also pissed off at my roommates for letting them in!