[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', 'I')n that view every person is as valuable as the next. Nobody deserves to survive any more than their neighbor or their enemy does.

[emailking]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', 'I')n that view every person is as valuable as the next. Nobody deserves to survive any more than their neighbor or their enemy does.

[Dukat_Reloaded]

Jack has a point and it does relate to survial. Jacks thinking is a survial trait, and that trait will pass down though the generations. People who do not have that trait will not survive. It's like if everyone piles into an elevator and the elevator light flashes "maximum load exceeded", everyone will eye the fattest person and kick them off.

[Chaparral]

Jack is a wise man. I cannot help but wonder if he was one of my classmates back at the University of Hard Knocks.

[virgincrude]

Did I miss any posts on this? This guy is revered in science, people treat him like some new age God, people flocked to answer his question on yahoo. and expected him to come up with the definitive answer (42 for those of us who read The HitchHiker's Guide ...) Do you think someone should tell him about PO? I mean, how does he expect us to go off and colonise space with oil depletion in full swing ...?

Just disappointing when one of the world's leading science guru's turns out to be ignorant. Answer's pretty simple IMHO, Peak Oil will deplete the human race to the new race of survivors who will finally live with peace as a FULL TIME state, (as opposed to the part time sate of peace currently) and only this way shall there be any survivors of the Last man STanding game currently being played out ...

(All answers on a post card please....)

[PenultimateManStanding]

Hopefully the Earth isn't too close to becoming a Black Hole, otherwise we'd all get sucked below the Event Horizon and disappear forever! You don't really worry about this do you Raph? Virgincrude, you know, the survivors may be warlike too. Ever think of that? They'll be the Jacks of the world, making everybody into slaves is one way it might play out. jess sayin'... "Please Mister Jack, lemme work on your farm, can I sleep in the barn? feed me, I'm hungry"

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '
')Me worry?
When you see a bigger picture PMS, you do not get lost in the detail, you do not fret the small stuff.
It will all make for a good book on esoteric connectivity perhaps.
If Von Danikan can get away with his fiction...some of my fact should penetrate.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', 'I')f the formula for Entropy accumulation is 25% of the circumscribed area of the event horizon of a Black Hole (a closed system) what exactly defines the Earth’s circumscribed area, and how close are we to 25%?

[peaker_2005]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', 'I')f the formula for Entropy accumulation is 25% of the circumscribed area of the event horizon of a Black Hole (a closed system) what exactly defines the Earth’s circumscribed area, and how close are we to 25%?

[virgincrude]

PenultimateManStanding, obviously, if all we're left with after die down or die off, whatever you wanna call it, are Americans or Africans, then yes, you'll just keep on killing each other until ... what?

I keep sane by thinking that somewhere during the killing, bombing, maiming, and other such human activities the survivors will realise that if they keep going they will simply wipe each other out, and that's a no-win situation. There will be survivors, and they will see how futile perpetual war is.

Unless they wipe out all the women first ...

[lowem]

The chosen answer basically said, "have faith". The fellow who asked the question probably already believes that technology will save us, that we will colonise space, that we will have a Star Trek future.

How about we put that together :
"Have faith, we will have a Star Trek future."



25,396 responses, and the chosen answer says to have faith. I find that rather incredible. I am also vaguely disappointed. "Having faith" is what our priests, our politicians, our economists, and our fund managers have always been telling us. Right ...

I'm a contrarian. I suspect that quite a number of us here are contrarians. Because, somehow, we don't believe in the majority view

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('virgincrude', ' ')yes, you'll just keep on killing each other until ... what?

[PenultimateManStanding]

count your blessings, it could have been like the physicist forum where they said WTF! get rid of this freak! or the Theologian forum where they wouldn't talk to you and waited patiently for you to go away. At least here people will respond. that's something, even if they respond by posting a picture of a fruitcake. note that it wasn't me that posted the fruitcake, I think your ideas are eccentric, and I suggested before that you stick to mythology and symbols, but that was only a suggestion. Take it for what its worth to you.

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', 'N')ow if laws of physics on earth hold true in space, would laws of physics in space hold true on earth.
In other words, if the earth is a closed system, how does the formula for the accumulation of entropy effect the earth?

[basil_hayden]

Raphael -

as far as I can tell from looking at the equations presented on Hawkings website, and being about as familiar with this subject as you appear to be about chemistry, it appears that the 25% max entropy in a black hole system is due in part to geometry - the tubular aspect of the black hole and the outward expansion of the apparent horizon, from the perspective of the particle that remains outside the black hole.

Of course, since we apparently don't know what happened to the anti-particle sucked into the black hole, maybe that particle is dissipated energy (entropy) reformed and put to use (adding mass to add grav forces to make it larger or providing energy for Hawking Radiation to make the hole smaller).

The formula for entropy collection does not appear to be applicable to Earth as a system as it doesn't "collect" like a black hole does; there's no local foliated space I'm aware of.

Ozone holes dissipating is a function of physical chemistry, not gravitational entropy, whether it be due to GHGs or cosmic rays.

If God=energy, and satan=heat, and light=jesus, and light=energy and heat=energy, then by your set of equations, God=Satan, which may explain much on this planet! fits my view that it's just two sides of the same coin, and we judge what we see based on where we are. My trash is your treasure so to speak.

Other than that, you'll need to email Hawking directly from his website. Maybe he can straighten this out for you better. Other than that, it's been a pleasure being your research scientist.

[entropyfails]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '
')I am still waiting for a response to a question I posed on the preceeding thread.

People do not seem to make the profound connection for what the formula for Entropy collection of a 'closed system' implies here on Earth.

If the maximum Entropy allowable is 25% of the 'circumscribed area', thus marking an event, the Black Hole dissipates.

Here on Earth, I will suggest we have breeched the 25% barrier, we have achieved 'maximum Entropy' and the ozone holes 'dissipating' are evidence of the breech.