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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby hironegro » Sun 06 Jul 2008, 01:32:23

Wow this excellent. Still don't understand why he's sticking his kneck out like this?
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby mos6507 » Sun 06 Jul 2008, 01:58:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hironegro', 'W')ow this excellent. Still don't understand why he's sticking his kneck out like this?


He's not creating these powerpoint presentations as a public service. He obviously believes the economy will remain functional enough to run an investment institution.
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby ReducedToZero » Sun 06 Jul 2008, 02:07:04

Matt Simmons is a blessing to the peakoil movement. He carries professionalism, experience, and a demeanor which is great at simplifying and bringing the word "Duh" to an issue many people cannot seem to grasp. His appeal to the media and simultaneously to the peak oilist is something we should be thankful for.
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby DantesPeak » Sun 06 Jul 2008, 13:04:21

If anyone could find a recent video of Simmons, giving this or some other recent presentation of his, it would be much appreaciated.
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby DantesPeak » Sun 06 Jul 2008, 19:30:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DantesPeak', 'I')f anyone could find a recent video of Simmons, giving this or some other recent presentation of his, it would be much appreaciated.
It'd be nice if Powerpoint included an audio plug-in accessory. You point at an image, sentence, paragraph etc. and listen to the accompanying sound. It would add to the presentation.

Different presentation than past ones. Simmons seems to be less looking for solutions, rather he's naming names and posting blame. You get the feeling he's done diagnosing the problem, and determined that the patient is terminal.

It's a postmortem. Nothing to do but mail out the insurance forms and wait for collection.


Agreed. Is Simmons next book on building bomb shelters?

Anyway I did find a recent video, but not based upon this presentation:

World Energy Source

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')Business Wire
June 30, 2008

"Gasoline Prices are not high enough"; World Energy TV Interviews Matthew Simmons , author of "Twilight in the Desert"

Business Editors/Energy Editors

HOUSTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 30, 2008--World Energy Source's World Energy Television -- Amidst skyrocketing oil prices, considerable financial activity in the oil market, and increased gas prices, producing and consuming nations alike are concerned about efficiency and supply. World Energy Television, recently spent an afternoon with Matthew Simmons , chairman of the energy investment firm Simmons & Company International and author of Twilight in the Desert: The Coming Saudi Oil Shock, to hear his perspective on oil supplies, pump prices, distributed generation and strategies to move us forward.

Oil prices have been too low for too long, he says. "The problem isn't that the prices are going up, it is that they have been so low for so long that we have been caught in a correction," explains Simmons.

The interview - which is available on cable stations across the country and at www.WorldEnergySource.com/wetv/energycrisis/ - features World Energy CEO Richard Loomis interviewing Simmons to solicit his opinion of America's energy strategy, or lack of.

The problem, notes Simmons, is not strategy; it is having a game plan for execution. In the interview, Simmons focuses beyond "peak oil" and looks at the immediate nature of the energy situation, examining both near-term solutions and long-term ones.

Focusing on renewable sources, Simmons points out the current production from these sources is roughly 1.50 percent, but that 1.50 percent is nonetheless a significant contribution. He then explains the actual potential to be unlocked in energy produced from wind and geothermal and the importance of distributed generation.
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby jupiters_release » Sun 06 Jul 2008, 20:03:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'H')e obviously believes the economy will remain functional enough to run an investment institution.


How do you know he isn't prepping for a future without a working economy, he has plenty of money to do so.
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby Niagara » Sun 06 Jul 2008, 21:56:09

A very good presentation.

I prefer reading Simmons over listening to him. Every 4th word he says is "basically".
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby Revi » Sun 06 Jul 2008, 22:06:45

I have watched a lot of Matt Simmons and here's one of the best ones. He does say basically a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IwtAQzrfiw
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby eastbay » Sun 06 Jul 2008, 22:10:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Simmons', 'R')ebuild the energy complex –melt down our guns and tanks for pipelines, refineries and rigs.
Great stuff. But then we're going to have to melt down our SUV's into bows and arrows


Went bow and arrow shooting with my daughters last month. We decided we have to become proficient in this, but it's a fairly pricey activity.


Simmons has either had it with everything, or he's suggesting this is a great opportunity to invest in and make more money out of energy service and NATGAS related investments massive amounts of which will be needed if we're going to access the increasingly harder to locate and extract fossil fuels.

I doubt if he's ready to surrender it all quite yet. :)
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby alokin » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 00:08:28

Exactly with this suggestion I have got problems. Why investing Billions of $ for an infrastructure which has little future? The oil reserves are declining and we should build a brand new infrastructure as if it would be emerging?
I simply think that the level of energy use must shrink and families have to be planned in all countries.
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby eastbay » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 00:30:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alokin', 'E')xactly with this suggestion I have got problems. Why investing Billions of $ for an infrastructure which has little future? The oil reserves are declining and we should build a brand new infrastructure as if it would be emerging?
I simply think that the level of energy use must shrink and families have to be planned in all countries.



In a perfect world you would be exactly correct. But as long as there's oil and NATGAS in the ground, we're going to blow every dime we have getting it out. And there's plenty left to get out... and each additional btu we extract will be costlier than the previous one.
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 02:10:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', '
')How do you know he isn't prepping for a future without a working economy, he has plenty of money to do so.


He may be, but he doesn't talk much about his personal life, unlike someone like Heinberg who has given tours of his peak oil homestead.
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby KevO » Tue 08 Jul 2008, 15:07:53

Simmons is the peak oil God.
He's more concerned now about WW3 breaking out because of peak oil deniers rather than peak oil itself.
Optimists are very, very dangerous, satanic people. They allowed Hitler and WW2 and if listened to will allow WW3.

I agree with Matt referring to the middle east reserves on
"If auditors are locked out, send in troops to get production data".

and I agree with Churchill on
"“I cried out but no one would listen and now Europe is devastated…There never was a war easier to win…Not a single shot needed to be fired…But, no one listened.”

and as Matt follow up
"The same words apply to our energy war…It can still be prevented without firing a single shot"

all quotes from

The Simmons and Co presentation
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby Mesuge » Tue 08 Jul 2008, 16:24:57

KevO>

as much as appealing the anti-appeasement stance of Winston Churchill in the 1930s could be and rigthly so, his motivation was more complex. For him the priority was to prolong the fading British Empire for as long as possible. On the other hand FDR worked just in the opposite direction, one can also called it "Uncle Sam's hostile takeover" of british assets..

The brits after the end of WWII had no money, no superpower grade position anymore, and rapidly desintegrating colonies, many of them gravitating towards the influence sphere of Washington.

In the 1930s the U.S. government was almost taken over by a nazi-bushevics coup (grandpa & friends of the sitting presidential idiot), in that case there would be no allied european WWII campaign and also less likely war against Japan. But most likely some form of global nazi government taking place in the late 20th century..

Ahh, gosh, looking around, not much different by now anyway..
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby hironegro » Tue 08 Jul 2008, 18:06:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hironegro', 'W')ow this excellent. Still don't understand why he's sticking his kneck out like this?


He's not creating these powerpoint presentations as a public service. He obviously believes the economy will remain functional enough to run an investment institution.


Why wouldn't he just pull a John Paulson instead of acting like modern day Paul Revere.
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby ChuckT » Tue 08 Jul 2008, 21:08:53

In 2004, I began an effort to educate my profession - the supply chain world - about Peak Oil and how their world would change forever. My premise was that supply chains were build on cheap petroleum and that was soon to be gone.

Four years later after watching oil go from $40 to $140, watching production stuck on 85 million barrells. I have spoken to over 3000 people and written several articles in major supply chain publications. I am tired. I think Matt is at the same point.

People hear you, but they really don't. Only a few seem to really get it. Look at all the people that write on these blogs that Matt has some agenda to make money etc.

I have never thought that about him. I haven't made any money speaking abut Peak Oil and I doubt he has either. I am sure he gets tired of telling the story especially when so little gets done.

Personally, I am about finished doing presentaions and writing about Peak Oil. It is depressing especially when you believe like I do that we are passed peak and you hear so-called responsible journalist talk about "drill, drill, drill" as the solution or oil shale or the Brakken formation or ANWAR. I hope all those get drilled, drilled, drilled just to shut those idiots up.

Anyway now that Peak Oil is getting some attention, we have so many hucksters with "solution" that nothing will get done because people will stay in denial until a crisis.

Like M. King Hubbert, Matt Simmons is a hero , but I am sure he is getting discouraged.
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby Peleg » Wed 09 Jul 2008, 15:24:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ChuckT', 'I')n 2004, I began an effort to educate my profession - the supply chain world - about Peak Oil and how their world would change forever. My premise was that supply chains were build on cheap petroleum and that was soon to be gone.

Four years later after watching oil go from $40 to $140, watching production stuck on 85 million barrells. I have spoken to over 3000 people and written several articles in major supply chain publications. I am tired. I think Matt is at the same point.

People hear you, but they really don't. Only a few seem to really get it. Look at all the people that write on these blogs that Matt has some agenda to make money etc.

I have never thought that about him. I haven't made any money speaking abut Peak Oil and I doubt he has either. I am sure he gets tired of telling the story especially when so little gets done.

Personally, I am about finished doing presentaions and writing about Peak Oil. It is depressing especially when you believe like I do that we are passed peak and you hear so-called responsible journalist talk about "drill, drill, drill" as the solution or oil shale or the Brakken formation or ANWAR. I hope all those get drilled, drilled, drilled just to shut those idiots up.

Anyway now that Peak Oil is getting some attention, we have so many hucksters with "solution" that nothing will get done because people will stay in denial until a crisis.

Like M. King Hubbert, Matt Simmons is a hero , but I am sure he is getting discouraged.


If he wants to be a hero he should offer some jobs. PO is becoming the type of thing you dare not speak about above a whisper if you want to be a career track person. And do we expect otherwise? I mean you are literally espousing the view that within only a few decades Americas we know it will cease to exist. And even if they think you mean something else, they know that higher and higher oil prices and endless recessions are bad for business. How can one even run a good business thinking that the end of business is near? The smart ones understand how the transition will have to happen, from global to regional to local (sub-regional) but then again business as usual is currently the best way to make money. I understand the difficulty of it all. We are asking people to believe that one of a range of possible future scenarios is more likely than others, and that they need to take action before any demonstrable evidence in order to mitigate impacts at great cost to their way of life. Jesus at least ofered some miracles to seal the deal. All we have is a pretty good set of arguments based upon data that could be much better than it is. I am looking to Simmons more and more often now, especially in anticipation of this fall's IEA report on oil fields.

I was very surprised that he would talk about sending in troops. Maybe it was tongue in cheek and the subtly was lost in the slide show.
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Re: Simmon's Latest Presentation

Unread postby Ming » Wed 09 Jul 2008, 16:27:30

Simmons' presentation is excelent.
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