[AmericanEmpire]

I have a very real fear that another "terrorist" attack will happen soon. Dubya needs to get the sheeple behind the resource wars again.

[LadyRuby]

Forget about terrorists. Did you know that in D.C. you use petroleum for 100% of your electricity? I'd be more afraid of your electric bill than terrorists.

[brobak]

Yeah...for awhile there, it felt like every time his polls would drop 10%, there'd be an Alert or something. But now he's really low...and I'm worried.

Of course, there was just London...but I feel like the pressure is building, and London, while horrific, wasnt really a pressure release... make sense?

[RonMN]

I would rest easy if i were you. At this point the real targets are the oil platforms...ANY oil platform (drilling, shipping, refining, hauling, pipelines, etc.)...

And i mean anywhere in the world...it's a real bitch for them to hit the USA now...so they can take out an oil platform in iraq, venezuailia, etc etc...they would hurt us just as bad (if not worse) that way... & it'd be easier for them to do.

With security as tight as it is right now...you're probably in the safest place!

[brobak]

Well, remember, London has just as tight a security net, if not tighter, because of all the CCTV camera's that have been there for YEARS, plus their experience with the IRA for 40 years. And still, they were hit. Twice. In two weeks. I'm not quite so confident.

[turmoil]

Plus I don't that he would allow STRATCOM to blow up his own house to make the point, if he even has a say in the matter.

[T4chibanaUkyo]

let's not forget the mid-west, Chicago has a luxurious lakeside with the Sears Tower just aching to be destroyed.....wow, and I live in the northwest side. As a paranoid gesture, i went to see if the blast would hit me (google "nuclear effects weapon calculator" for some Java program that calculates nuclear blasts in populous cites) From the interent rumors, i hear that there will be a false flag attack using a 10 kt nuke on a boat. but you never know, there will probably be more bang (more bang=more fear) So,.....10kt=the whole LOOP is destroyed, coupled with the EMP shockwave that will shatter electronics....wow, hope the wind isn't blowing in my direction when it goes off. the blast would get me if it were 2 MT, would the government actually use a 2MT nuke just to start a war over oil? no matter what, i am dead.....1) nuke incinerates me OR if I am still alive.....2) resorce war will draft me and kill me. any thoughts are appreciated! good or bad.

[EnemyCombatant]

I'm betting Chicago too.

Not the Sears tower though. I was thinking more along the lines of a few federal buildings.

This is just a rumor, but if there is any truth at all ...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')A Chicago grand jury has indicted the President and Vice-President of the United States along with multiple high officials in the Bush administration

Chicago -- August 2, 2005 -- TomFlocco.com -- U.S. federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's Chicago grand jury has issued perjury and obstruction of justice indictments to the following members of the Bush Administration: President George W. Bush, Vice-President Richard Cheney, Bush Chief of Staff Andrew Card, Cheney Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, former Attorney General John Ashcroft, imprisoned New York Times reporter Judith Miller and former Senior Cheney advisor Mary Matalin.

[T4chibanaUkyo]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', 'I')'m betting Chicago too.

Not the Sears tower though. I was thinking more along the lines of a few federal buildings.

[karina]

I work in DC. A week ago I got an e-mail about energy conservation in the building to avoid the rolling blackout.

[k_semler]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('brobak', ' ')And what better target is left than the White House in DC?

Anyways, I know you guys are an understanding bunch when it comes to rational (or irrational) fears. So I just thought I'd get this off my chest. I dont know that I feel any better, but at least its out there.

[I_Like_Plants]

If I wanted to piss off Americans and ensure my own country gets turned into slightly warm greenish glass, yeah, I'd bomb the Superbowl or take out Mall Of America. If I wanted to destroy the US economy, then I'd attack oil production/distribution infrastructure.

Piss off Americans, sign your own death warrent. We're just too damn strong. Hit the US in the oil can and you get an economic depression and people start asking questions. We damn near had a revolution the last big depression.

Frankly all terrorist attacks are very stupid, but the US/Israel are acting as such merciless aggressors that the other side's not being given much choice. If you figure you're going to get killed anyway, and your people, might as well go out with a bang.

[Liamj]

D.C. is safe, GWBs handlers know he needs all the fake stature (as provided by whitehouse etc) he can get, and its not as if the Democrats or the whitehouse press pool are any kind of threat to him. Plus they'll need the infrastructure to keep proper control of their estate (the USA).

I reckon they'll go for somewhere 'blue', as with 911 & 7/7. Betcha they're itching to do San Fran or Portland, but that'd be too obvious.

edit: what was i thinking, Chicago it'll be, unless they manage to bring Fitzgerald to heel on the Plame case.

[Grimnir]

This guy speculates that GWB would be killed if there were another attack, so that PNAC could seize power overtly instead of operating from behind the scenes:

http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=78

I don't believe all this stuff, but my brain insists on worrying anyway...

[VinceG]

Personally, I am little bit worried about the relation between Bush' approval rate before and after 9/11 and the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, and the current situation...

On September 7th 2001, only 51% of the American people approved Bush' handling of his job as a president...

After the attacks on 9/11, his approval rate skyrocketed to percentages between 85%-90%. In the weeks following, Bush started a war against Afghanistan and signed the Patriot act. These events have immensely changed the global geopolitical, military and cultural landscapes...

Currently, Bush' approval rate has sunk to 45%, the lowest of his presidency. Bush is in a very BAD need for some (?!) kind of major event that will boost his approval rate again, giving him unlimited opportunities to conduct military action (against Iran...) or install new Patriot acts...

I'm afraid that we'll very soon see some major 'terrorist' attack again, that will be legitimized by the Bush government to start wars and install new laws...

[SupplyConcerns]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', 'I')'m betting Chicago too.

Not the Sears tower though. I was thinking more along the lines of a few federal buildings.

This is just a rumor, but if there is any truth at all ...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')A Chicago grand jury has indicted the President and Vice-President of the United States along with multiple high officials in the Bush administration

Chicago -- August 2, 2005 -- TomFlocco.com -- U.S. federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's Chicago grand jury has issued perjury and obstruction of justice indictments to the following members of the Bush Administration: President George W. Bush, Vice-President Richard Cheney, Bush Chief of Staff Andrew Card, Cheney Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, former Attorney General John Ashcroft, imprisoned New York Times reporter Judith Miller and former Senior Cheney advisor Mary Matalin.

[brobak]

Welp, I'm back at my desk today. Trying to ignore all the worries in my brain.

I guess there's just so much going on thats GOOD in my life right now, its only magnifies the fears that it would be cut short.

I got the earth sheltered home being built in WV, I got my wedding coming up in september, I got my new dog coming next month...big stuff, little stuff, but good stuff. *sigh* Blah.

It's really kind of draining you know? I wish I could stop.

[AlCzervik]

Maybe it's just normal internet discourse and craziness, but these stories seem to keep piling up.

-You've got the Saudis pulling money out of the market (what do they anticipate?)
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic10839-0.html

- You've got conservative mags reporting that Cheney wants to nuke Iran if there is another 9/11 (but, note that Amcon are old school conservatives and dislike the neocons)
http://www.amconmag.com/2005_08_01/article3.html

- You've got all kinds of speculation about the Fitzgerald grand jury
14. To distract from the impending release of the indictments and the naming of the unindicted co-conspirators, the Bush White House has caused deadly rumors to circulate.
Such as, that the FBI is tracking in the District of Columbia and elsewhere that certain supposed "terrorists" have suitcase dirty nukes ready to set off in D.C.

Such as, that Bush will declare Martial Law and suspend Habeas Corpus, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Such as the U.S. will be wracked with financial and domestic anarchy as Bush seeks asylum in Brazil, or Australia, or elsewhere overseas.
http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/S_28 ... s/bush.htm

And you have a very solid analysis of the martial law plan to be installed with the next attack.

THE GLOBAL BATTLEFIELD -
WE ARE STANDING ON IT
The Evolution of the Bush-Rumsfeld War Doctrine
Roadmap to Martial Law
London Attacks From Another Perspective
By
Stan Goff
<snip>
Department of Defense, Washington, D.C., June 2005 - Strategy for Homeland Defense and Civil Support. From the Executive Summary:

We now confront an enemy who will attempt to engage us not only far from US shores, but also at home. Terrorists will seek to employ asymmetric means to penetrate our defenses and exploit the openness of our society to their advantage. By attacking our citizens, our economic institutions, our physical infrastructure, and our social fabric, they seek to destroy American democracy. We dare not underestimate the devastation that terrorists seek to bring to Americans at home.

To defeat 21st Century threats, we must think and act innovatively. Our adversaries consider US territory an integral part of a global theater of combat. We must therefore have a strategy that applies to the domestic context the key principles that are driving the transformation of US power projection and joint expeditionary warfare.

Each section of this ten-year strategy outline for the Department of Defense is headed by an italicized quote from Reich Fuehrer Bush. This is what must be borne in mind as part of any analysis of this document, which is scaring the bejesus out of a lot of civil libertarians. Because it is - and I will describe exactly how as we go along - it is a roadmap to martial law.

But it is also an outline of a strategy of abject failure. It is a strategy so ambitious, so insanely grandiose, and so interdependently complicated in any attempt to put it into practice, that time, expense, and mind-boggling complexity at every scale will render the reality a ragged effigy of its own feverish ideal.
http://bgtruth.blogspot.com/2005/07/glo ... ng-on.html

Add it all up, and it is a bit concerning.

[LadyRuby]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('brobak', 'W')elp, I'm back at my desk today. Trying to ignore all the worries in my brain.

I guess there's just so much going on thats GOOD in my life right now, its only magnifies the fears that it would be cut short.

I got the earth sheltered home being built in WV, I got my wedding coming up in september, I got my new dog coming next month...big stuff, little stuff, but good stuff. *sigh* Blah.

It's really kind of draining you know? I wish I could stop.

[SupplyConcerns]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlCzervik', 'S')uch as, that Bush will declare Martial Law and suspend Habeas Corpus, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Such as the U.S. will be wracked with financial and domestic anarchy as Bush seeks asylum in Brazil, or Australia, or elsewhere overseas.