[Heineken]

Thanks bshirt (how's it going, BTW?).

Yes, my dad's a pretty amazing guy. He's 82 and can still recite many hundreds of lines of poetry, and lots of pithy sayings like the Snoopy one. He earned two Bronze Stars in WWII, and a French citation, then spent the rest of his life crippled by posttraumatic stress disorder. He sits in that house over there, half-blind and half-deaf, and we do what we can to keep his spirits up. But Dad knows the real deal about life.

[WildRose]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'O')ne of my dad's sayings was, "There are worse things than being alone."

[jupiters_release]

I can't handwalk but I've started practicing handstands which are a lot funner than I thought. I can only stay up for about 15 seconds before I lose my balance though. I've learned to keep my body extended, legs together, and eyes focused straight ahead upside down on one point, but any other pointers are welcome. What do you recommend Heineken?

Luckily I've never had a "bad" relationship, so its hard to imagine it being worse than being alone for too long.

I'm moving out of NYC for good next week and I've found that in of itself a big relief from peakoil stress, really looking forward to living around nature for the first time in my life.

[Byron100]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '
')Another member touched on the subject of community and its relationship to stress.

Being lonely can indeed be stressful, but as I look back on my life, bad relationships with people were the most stressful experiences I endured. By far.

People can mess you up but good.

One of my dad's sayings was, "There are worse things than being alone."

Another wise aphorism (from "Peanuts"): "The secret of life is to reduce your worries to a minimum." (This in turn derives no doubt from Thoreau's injunction to "simplify, simplify.")

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', 'I') can't handwalk but I've started practicing handstands which are a lot funner than I thought. I can only stay up for about 15 seconds before I lose my balance though. I've learned to keep my body extended, legs together, and eyes focused straight ahead upside down on one point, but any other pointers are welcome. What do you recommend Heineken?

Luckily I've never had a "bad" relationship, so its hard to imagine it being worse than being alone for too long.

I'm moving out of NYC for good next week and I've found that in of itself a big relief from peakoil stress, really looking forward to living around nature for the first time in my life.

[kevincarter]

That's whay a composting toilet is even a better idea. IMO defecating in a big bowl of drinking water and then throwing it away is a practice that is not gonna be arround for long anyway. The way we civilized men do it its quite twisted if you think about it.

[pedalling_faster]

Ashtanga Yoga ?

[skyemoor]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kevincarter', 'T')hat's whay a composting toilet is even a better idea. IMO defecating in a big bowl of drinking water and then throwing it away is a practice that is not gonna be arround for long anyway. The way we civilized men do it its quite twisted if you think about it.

[Baldwin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kevincarter', 'T')hat's whay a composting toilet is even a better idea. IMO defecating in a big bowl of drinking water and then throwing it away is a practice that is not gonna be arround for long anyway. The way we civilized men do it its quite twisted if you think about it.

[aldente]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gerontion', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', 'H')istorically in the Western world sex and alcohol were (and still are to a good degree) the main go to drugs for stress relive.
In the near future you might want to refer to 'indifference', since neither of the above might be available in natural form much longer.

[vision-master]

No workie
Great big mello Lab
Lot's of nordic hiking
Green Prozax
Xanax
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[Ferretlover]

Thinking out loud:
POers must be some of the most mentally healthy people there are.. Being able to think, being able to consider what the future is going to be like, dealing with the stress of waiting for the future to unfold and all this without being instantly committed to an asylum..

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '
')POers must be some of the most mentally healthy people there are..

[mmasters]

I think this is a subject that everyone here should be aware of, I feel lucky to have found this information for it has made all the difference in my ability to recover from what was a miserable existance for the past few months leading into a nervous breakdown.

Months back my energy had been declining. Being in a negative pressured work situation I think was the main cause. Though to add to it I seperated from a long term relationship recently, had a death in the family and of course have been heavily envolved mentally in PO and related subjects. So I kept pushing on but started getting fatigued and in a perpetual state of seeking stimulation to motivate me whether it be getting in an angry state, listening to music constantly, eating comfort food, watching porn, indulging in posting here, working hard at the gym, etc... More recently the fatigue got worse and my ability to handle stress completely degenerated as did my work situation. I ended up resigning.

At that point the pressure was off but I couldn't control my stress levels, was having panic attacks, my digestive system was all screwed up, insomnia became severe. Basically I was a mess. I went to a doctor and all the tests came back fine except for high cholesterol. So according to the doctor nothing was really wrong.

I then started researching on the net and found some articles on adrenal fatigue. I wasn't sure this was the problem though it sounded like it. Out of desperation I adhered to the strict diet, lifestyle and vitamin supplements recommended for adrenal fatigue. I didn't think it would do anything but to my surprise it very much did and instantly my problems subsided. I feel better now than I've felt in months.

I'm still not back to 100% as that will probably take a couple months but I am doing a world better than I was a week or two back.

So after my experience with this phenomenon I feel compelled to tell others of it so they can avoid having a bad result as I did. Also as I've become more aware of this issue in myself I can see many others suffering mild to moderate forms of it.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')drenal Fatigue is a health disorder that can affect anyone who experiences persistent or severe emotional or physical stress. It is also an important contributing factor in health conditions ranging from allergies to obesity. Despite its prevalence in our modern world, Adrenal Fatigue has generally been ignored and untreated by the medical community

It's estimated that over 80% of North Americans suffer from some form of stress-related Adrenal Fatigue. Although many people realize that stress is a problem in their lives, few understand the actual physical ways stress acts on their bodies and minds through the adrenal glands, or more importantly, what they can do about it. Unfortunately even most doctors still do not recognize the common health conditions produced by Adrenal Fatigue. This leaves a lot of people suffering without anywhere to turn for help.

[PandaFi]

Thanks - This is really useful info!!

[Ferretlover]

I must agree. If you are feeling fatigued, go to the doctor!
My brother got to the point he was so tired, he could barely get off the couch.
Went to the doctor, and found out it was leukemia.
Go to the doctor!

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'I') must agree. If you are feeling fatigued, go to the doctor!
My brother got to the point he was so tired, he could barely get off the couch.
Went to the doctor, and found out it was leukemia.
Go to the doctor!

[Ferretlover]

I know-they only practice medicine...
But, then, my brother didn't expect the cancer... Just thought he was overworked (he's in construction).
Anyway, I am glad that you feel better!

[MattSavinar]

fish oil, digestive enzymes, rhodiola, b-vitamins and vitamin c, celtic sea salt, organic eggs and meat, lots of fresh fruit and fiborous veggies, eliminate soy and high fructose corn syrup, some type of daily light-to-moderate exercise, plus a hammock in the sunshine and a loyal & playful dog if you got 'em. . .

a search for "adrenal fatigue" at http://www.testosterone.net will yield more.

[Ferretlover]

Or, playful ferrets!