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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby bratticus » Fri 02 Jan 2009, 09:19:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'S')eriously guys, what did you expect to find there? Fallen shelves, rotting bodies of salesmen scattered around the store?

Fantastic bargains?
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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby Byron100 » Fri 02 Jan 2009, 10:38:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bratticus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'S')eriously guys, what did you expect to find there? Fallen shelves, rotting bodies of salesmen scattered around the store?
Fantastic bargains?

Just goes to show you that modern retail is just a colossal scam, just like the stock market, working a so-called "job", etc, etc.

Know what I'd love to see? A national, grass-roots movement of "buyer's strikes", specifically targeting big-box retail. Who in the world needs Best Buy? Or that god-awful Circuit City - sure am glad to see them go...LOL. And please, please, let us all boycott the chain eateries such as Chili's and Appleby's. The idea of waiting an hour just to eat that cardboard dreck is enough to ruin my appetite any day. The time has come to brandish our swords and slay the dragon of corporate consumerism. :-D
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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby bratticus » Fri 02 Jan 2009, 11:35:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Byron100', 'K')now what I'd love to see? A national, grass-roots movement of "buyer's strikes"

Why do we need that now? Seems it's already happening beyond what anyone could dream of.
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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby EndOfGrowth » Fri 02 Jan 2009, 11:45:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Snowrunner', 't')he Brits, meanwhile, seem to be getting concerned: link

Seems like Jeremy Clarkson's answer to sagging sales is to hire better looking women who work in the stores. He could be onto something. 8)
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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby Pretorian » Fri 02 Jan 2009, 14:14:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndOfGrowth', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Snowrunner', 't')he Brits, meanwhile, seem to be getting concerned: link

Seems like Jeremy Clarkson's answer to sagging sales is to hire better looking women who work in the stores. He could be onto something. 8)
"Pretty girls cost the same to employ as ugly ones. Nobody likes to be served by a boot-faced crow" Link

because a LOT of men are afraid to speak to a women they don't know .
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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby Snowrunner » Fri 02 Jan 2009, 15:12:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bratticus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Byron100', 'K')now what I'd love to see? A national, grass-roots movement of "buyer's strikes"
Why do we need that now? Seems it's already happening beyond what anyone could dream of.

Plus there is this "Buy Nothing Day", which seems to have... Ummm. yeah no effect.
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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby JoeW » Fri 02 Jan 2009, 16:00:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', 'Y')ou got a bunch of spare parts for your suckbag stored away? No. I thought so. Neither do I. But I do keep a spare suckbag in the attic, just in case.

Actually, I used to buy a new vacuum about once a year, because that's how often the wife reports that they're broken... Since she breaks them so frequently, I tend to buy the cheapest one when I go to our local K-mart. This year, I bought the second-cheapest one because it was the same model as the broken one! I kept the broken one for parts, and it recently paid off when I heard the all-too-familiar, "The vacuum cleaner is broken!" complaint...
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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby IgnoranceIsBliss » Sat 03 Jan 2009, 21:25:20

I was in the Orlando, FL area over the holidays. Parking lots of the local malls were crowded and appeared full.

Victoria's Secret had a huge line at the cash register. I would never buy that over priced stuff ($49 for Pajamas), but I had a gift card from our wedding 4+ years ago. Didn't spend any of it due to the crowds, but will soon in case they go belly up.

We went to Christmas brunch at an upscale hotel in the Lake Mary area (near Heathrow). It was packed even though the cost was $32 per person. I overheard a manager say that they had already served 500 people ($16,000 gross revenue) by 1PM when we got there and it was still going strong when we left.

I did notice an alarming number of vacant stores in the Altamonte Springs/ I-4 area (a really crowded suburb just north of Orlando). There used to be a "bargain" priced steak house there which was always crowded & had people waiting outside, but they are out of business now. Gateway computer store is also gone. I went to visit my friend and she told me to "turn at the boarded up Eckerd drug store building" as directions to her house.
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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby Serial_Worrier » Mon 05 Jan 2009, 18:12:37

The chain restaurants around where I live are always packed on the weekends. Grocery stores packed. Big box retailers pretty packed as well.
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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby the48thronin » Mon 05 Jan 2009, 21:56:11

January 5 I "visited' 3 J C Pennys stores in Delaware while my wife delivered the same roll out of new racks to 5 in Florida. In 18 days just before new years a new set of cloths racks was shipped to every J C Pennys in the USA. ( I didn't bother to check which department is getting them.)

Loads scheduled for more roll outs so J C is not planning to stop replacing display racks as per usual.

One other retailer I also carry roll outs for has canceled all loads this year. Different owners.

Sears roll outs are according to a friend who does sears on schedule on volume so far.

As to shopping, I spent several hundred dollars in Kohls after Christmas at 70 percent off I bought some shirts and a sport coat to wear on the cruise next week.

The ship is sailing Sunday... You all keep the fires warm while I am vaccationing... Oh and while I am celebrating my 61st birthday in Belice... I'll try to remember to hoist one for all of you up in the Nanook country...LOL

FWIW all three store managers did say sales numbers are way down this year.
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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby Serial_Worrier » Tue 06 Jan 2009, 01:02:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('the48thronin', 'J')anuary 5 I "visited' 3 J C Pennys stores in Delaware while my wife delivered the same roll out of new racks to 5 in Florida. In 18 days just before new years a new set of cloths racks was shipped to every J C Pennys in the USA. (I didn't bother to check which department is getting them.)
Loads scheduled for more roll outs so J C is not planning to stop replacing display racks as per usual.
One other retailer I also carry roll outs for has canceled all loads this year. Different owners.
Sears roll outs are according to a friend who does sears on schedule on volume so far.
As to shopping, I spent several hundred dollars in Kohls after Christmas at 70 percent off I bought some shirts and a sport coat to wear on the cruise next week.
The ship is sailing Sunday. You all keep the fires warm while I am vaccationing. Oh and while I am celebrating my 61st birthday in Belice. I'll try to remember to hoist one for all of you up in the Nanook country...LOL
FWIW all three store managers did say sales numbers are way down this year.

Enjoy your trip. Life is too short to be in doom-mode 24/7.
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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby bratticus » Tue 06 Jan 2009, 17:04:22

I saw a pawn shop up for lease today. It was right next to a Realtors

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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby Maddog78 » Tue 06 Jan 2009, 17:17:12

Not that much different around here. (outside of Vancouver, B.C.)

My daughter's b.f. is a manager at a Best Buy and he said the bigger ticket items like laptops and big TV's were not selling as well but lower priced items were moving fast. They sold over 100 ipods the Sat. before Xmas.
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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby TreebeardsUncle » Tue 06 Jan 2009, 23:04:21

This is also nbd.

Total retail space in the states increased 100% between 1990 and 2005, 3x demographic and sales growth. These stores were supported through excessively leveraged investment as well as over-spending by consumers through too much use of credit cards and Di-Tech-type home loans. Now, there will be some trimming back. On another note, some folks are considering whether bio-fuels will make up for oil depletion. Oil depletion may end up being nbd as well.

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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Wed 07 Jan 2009, 00:31:59

I'm not seeing how this isn't a big deal, Even if we have twice as many stores as we need, what do you propose we do with all the people that work at these stores? They sure won't be automotive factory workers. Maybe we should ship them to Iraq and colonize the place?
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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby jdmartin » Wed 07 Jan 2009, 01:35:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lanthanide', 'I') haven't actually personally met any myself, but I'm not actually from the same country that you are.
When I worked at The Warehouse here, which is our (lame) equivalent of Walmart, we frequently got in customer's TVs, VCRs, stereos and vacuum cleaners and sent them away for repair, both in an out of warranty, to a place called Saxon's Appliances. Very seldom did anything come back as being uneconomical or impossible to repair.
So, regardless of what you might like to think, repairmen (and companies) still exist, and so the question still stands.

I don't know anything about New Zealand, but I do know about the US and fixing things. Not to break my arm patting myself on the back, but I can fix almost any product known to mankind. This, of course, is a maddening trait for my wife, who would many times much rather simply "have a new one".

Anyway, on to the point: while lots of things can be fixed, there are several caveats:
1. It's often more economical to buy a new one - lots of times the repair parts cost more than a new item, not counting the fact that your labor is free. I used to operate a car audio repair center, and by the time I closed it down I had to - I couldn't repair stereos et al for less than they could buy a new one.

2. Repair parts are often damn near impossible to procure - our breadmaker busted a plastic gear that turns the dough kneader. The part could not be purchased anywhere, even at an authorized repair center. I ended up having to buy a secondhand bread maker off Ebay, same model, and now use the original for scavenged parts. Most people would have said the hell with it, because I really didn't save much money (it's just against my nature to toss stuff).

3. Many items are designed to not be repaired - this means sealed parts that can't be opened with being destroyed, plastic designed to fatigue to failure, parts/schematics that can't be obtained, etc. Something can only be fixed if a)you can get parts or b)you can make parts. Ever try to make a hybrid plastic gear glued to a smooth metal belt spindle? I have, and it's damn near impossible.

4. If you can't do any of this stuff yourself, good luck finding someone - Most stuff costs too much to repair for it to make sense. If you can buy a new Chinese vacuum for $40, are you going to spend $150 fixing your previous Chinese vacuum? Me neither.
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08 Review to Christmastunes

Unread postby Micki » Thu 08 Jan 2009, 04:47:22

Not too shabby meddley of Christmas songs with contemporary texts.
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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

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Re: Personal Impressions at the Shops Post Christmas

Unread postby jdmartin » Sat 10 Jan 2009, 01:43:08

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Nice photo. I'd love to see a sticky with all kinds of photos like this.
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Indulge

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