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Re: Video: London G20 protestors storm RBS bank

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 00:05:19

That's right. Terrify a bunch of clerks, secretaries, and accountants. That's the way to increase support for your side.

And there's nothing like a good window smashing to improve the profitability of a bank so that it can pay back the taxpayers.

I hope the police were able to arrest the people damaging the bank's property.

Protesting and mass demonstration can be effective tools of democratic involvement. Mass demonstrations show that there is serious public support or opposition for a cause and political leaders take note.

But when that protest turns into a violent riot, public support evaporates.

It does not matter if they are right or wrong, it's just bad public relations to destroy property and assault police.
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Re: Video: London G20 protestors storm RBS bank

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 00:15:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '
')It does not matter if they are right or wrong, it's just bad public relations to destroy property and assault police.


I'd argue with that point. Its very good public relations. Even bad publicity is better than no publicity, but this isn't even bad publicity unless you happen to support the status quo. One can expect a good deal more of this in the days and weeks to come. All to the good.

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Re: Video: London G20 protestors storm RBS bank

Unread postby Jotapay » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 00:32:17

This is nothing demonstrable yet. Let me know when one of the central banks in the G20 nations is replaced. That will be truly noteworthy in the history of this planet.
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Re: Banksters Burned in Effigy

Unread postby Jotapay » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 00:34:56

Wake me when they take domestic control over the central bank-issued fiat currency. Until then, this is all show and everyone knows it.
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Re: Banksters Burned in Effigy

Unread postby Last_Laff » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 01:50:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TreebeardsUncle', 'T')hat is Europe, not America.


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Re: Video: London G20 protestors storm RBS bank

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 10:27:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '
')It does not matter if they are right or wrong, it's just bad public relations to destroy property and assault police.

I'd argue with that point.


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Re: Video: London G20 protestors storm RBS bank

Unread postby stu » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 10:50:45

I was actually at the protests yesterday and saw the attacks on the RBS bank.

Only decided to go down on Monday night after a last minute change of plan. Joined one of the marches that went over London Bridge and congregated for over an hour chatting to some of the protestors. After a while I tried to leave but was told that the police had blocked off all the exits and penned everyone in. The police refused to let me past and were standing in lines three deep. The fact I was being denied the freedom to leave pissed me off and word was going round that the anarchists were going to try and break through the police lines near the RBS branch so I headed over that way. Saw the RBS branch getting broke into. A few people gained entry and tried starting a fire apparently but were arrested and hardly anyone else made it through. Then police lines, with horses behind, started pushing the crowd away from the bank. This resulted in a bit of crush so the police had to let a section of the crowd, myself included, through the lines to relieve the pressure. After I got out I went over to the climate camp on Bishopsgate where the atmosphere was almost festival-like.
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Re: Video: London G20 protestors storm RBS bank

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 11:58:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'T')hat's right. Terrify a bunch of clerks, secretaries, and accountants. That's the way to increase support for your side.

And there's nothing like a good window smashing to improve the profitability of a bank so that it can pay back the taxpayers.

I hope the police were able to arrest the people damaging the bank's property.

Protesting and mass demonstration can be effective tools of democratic involvement. Mass demonstrations show that there is serious public support or opposition for a cause and political leaders take note.

But when that protest turns into a violent riot, public support evaporates.

It does not matter if they are right or wrong, it's just bad public relations to destroy property and assault police.


Your such a little wiener. :lol:
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Re: Video: London G20 protestors storm RBS bank

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 11:59:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('stu', 'I') was actually at the protests yesterday and saw the attacks on the RBS bank.

Only decided to go down on Monday night after a last minute change of plan. Joined one of the marches that went over London Bridge and congregated for over an hour chatting to some of the protestors. After a while I tried to leave but was told that the police had blocked off all the exits and penned everyone in. The police refused to let me past and were standing in lines three deep. The fact I was being denied the freedom to leave pissed me off and word was going round that the anarchists were going to try and break through the police lines near the RBS branch so I headed over that way. Saw the RBS branch getting broke into. A few people gained entry and tried starting a fire apparently but were arrested and hardly anyone else made it through. Then police lines, with horses behind, started pushing the crowd away from the bank. This resulted in a bit of crush so the police had to let a section of the crowd, myself included, through the lines to relieve the pressure. After I got out I went over to the climate camp on Bishopsgate where the atmosphere was almost festival-like.


Glad to here this.

American kids have no balls anymore. :badgrin:
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Re: Banksters Burned in Effigy

Unread postby truecougarblue » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 13:54:29

You know, almost all the top people responsible for the evil fiscal policies currently in practice are in London today. Surely there are enough rouges in London to storm the gates and take them out. I'm not advocating violence, of course. Violence is only allowed to governments.

I'd be perfectly happy to let the Brits do my dirty work, as would most Americans.
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Re: Banksters Burned in Effigy

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 14:19:39

I'll be impressed when they start burning actual bankers. Until then, "ho-hum".
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All smiles at the G20, Obama brokers compromise

Unread postby Sixstrings » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 18:49:35

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')orld leaders on Thursday heralded the G20 summit as the day the world “fought back against the recession” as they put on a show of unity that lifted global markets and mapped out a new future for financial regulation

Gordon Brown, host of the summit, said the meeting marked the emergence of a “new world order”, as he unveiled what leaders claimed was a $1,100bn package of measures to tackle the global downturn, including support for lower income countries and a $250bn plan to boost the international money supply.

France’s president Nicolas Sarkozy, meanwhile, said the summit’s agreement on a new regulatory regime and crackdown on tax havens showed “a page has been turned” on an era of post-war “Anglo Saxon” capitalism.

US officials say that Barack Obama helped broker a compromise over offshore tax savings between Hu Jintao of China and Nicolas Sarkozy of France, who had threatened to walk away from the summit.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/082652de-1fb0 ... abdc0.html

As for the photo.. I have to say I have *never* seen a diplomatic photo op quite like this. It's so happy lookin! Is that Medvedev there, all smiles in the big thumbs up group hug??

Heck, even the Chinese premier is smiling. The only sour looks in the crowd are Brown and the Saudi fellow. :wink:

Oh and this one, it's a regular Sunny Delight commercial:
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Re: All smiles at the G20, Obama brokers compromise

Unread postby Bas » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 18:57:42

great photo! as for the more regulation of banks part, we still have to see how that will be worked out in practice in the different countries.
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Re: All smiles at the G20, Obama brokers compromise

Unread postby Voice_du_More » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 19:13:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '[')url=http://media.ft.com/cms/c8e3e614-1fa4-11de-a7a5-00144feabdc0.jpg]link[/url]$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')orld leaders on Thursday heralded the G20 summit as the day the world “fought back against the recession” as they put on a show of unity that lifted global markets and mapped out a new future for financial regulation --snip-- US officials say that Barack Obama helped broker a compromise over offshore tax savings between Hu Jintao of China and Nicolas Sarkozy of France, who had threatened to walk away from the summit.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/082652de-1fb0 ... abdc0.html

As for the photo.. I have to say I have *never* seen a diplomatic photo op quite like this. It's so happy lookin! Is that Medvedev there, all smiles in the big thumbs up group hug?? Heck, even the Chinese premier is smiling. The only sour looks in the crowd are Brown and the Saudi fellow. :wink:

The Saudi's are notoriously bad at hiding their scorn. The look on his face tells me that the plan to dismantle the US has already started to unfold.
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G20 and IMF Gold Sales

Unread postby deMolay » Fri 03 Apr 2009, 08:18:50

Print more paper dumb hard assets.. link
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Re: G20 summit

Unread postby dorlomin » Fri 03 Apr 2009, 17:01:06

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Re: G20 summit

Unread postby Quinny » Sat 04 Apr 2009, 09:23:13

As usual people can't demonstrate in peace....


without trouble being caused by the police! :(


Must say those coppers were a lot more restrained than during the miners strike, or than at many football matches! I suppose with the Robocop army issue against a load of hippies they don't have much to worry about.

Scenes like this makes me understand why the Americans are so keen on their guns. I don't think it's the zombies you should be scared of? :)
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Re: G20 summit

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 04 Apr 2009, 09:34:22

The cops have to bash some people to keep away the sheeple.
If sheeple thought they would have a nice day out with the friendly police and protest the G20 maybe millions would show up and actually have an effect. Also they have to impress upon citizens of more totalitarian regime's that they are not weak.
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G20:UK police assaults innocent passer by who later dies.

Unread postby Micki » Thu 09 Apr 2009, 01:52:51

A few years ago I couldn't imagine I would come to call police pigs, but I can't find a better word.

Ian Tomlinson (47) was walking home from work through the G20 protest areas when he was suddenly assaulted by a policeman. Ian died that day from a masive hear attack.
Thank God for video camers or Ian would have been labeled a trouble maker.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2009/apr/07/g20-police-assault-video

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Re: G20:UK police assaults innocent passer by who later dies.

Unread postby Quinny » Thu 09 Apr 2009, 03:18:10

If you'd been involved in the miners strikes you'd have called them worse than that.

The policing at the G20 was more intimidating than previously but mainly because of the robo-cop style body armour etc. The clips I've seen they in the main used sheer numbers and pressure to control the crowd with isolated violence. The actual brutality didn't seem as bad as I've seen before at footbal matches and industrial disputes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kqbxyjAB7Q&feature=PlayList&p=F3148A8F6267EC07&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4

I didn't see them charging on horses at the G20, now that is scary!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXFMIbkKMMc

Even a Saturday night out can turn nasty over here! At least the bastards haven't got guns!
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